The Fucking Season Thread - Redemption Tour '22

[zeke]

He adjusts 2nd assists when calculating gsva.

 

[soco22]

Argue

He also eats tough matchups and has saved 34 44 and 16 from the worst job in hockey

Would argue Montreal C is worse than toronto C

 

[MindzEye]

Last 4yrs, centers minimum 500min 5v5:

* = not fulltime center

P/60

1. McDavid 2.87
2. Malkin 2.71
3. Matthews 2.65
4. Draisaitl* 2.65
5. Stamkos* 2.53
6. Mackinnon 2.51
7. Point 2.50
8. Crosby 2.43
9. Barkov 2.39
10. Tavares 2.33

P1/60

1. Matthews 2.31
2. McDavid 2.30
3. Stamkos* 2.08
4. Mackinnon 2.07
5. Point 2.00
6. Crosby 1.99
7. Draisaitl* 1.99
8. Malkin 1.98
9. Barkov 1.89
10. Tavares 1.83


xGF% (#1/2 C only)

1. Bergeron 60.0%
2. Danault 58.0%
3. Matthews 57.0%
4. Ek 56.1%
5. Hintz 55.7%
6. Point 55.5%
7. Karlsson 55.3%
8. Mackinnon 55.0%
9. Aho 54.9%
10. Lindholm 54.1%
11. Crosby 54.0%
12. Tavares 53.8%

How did you manage to massage this to omit Bergeron, Hertl, & Pettersson

 

[zeke]

How did you manage to massage this to omit Bergeron, Hertl, & Pettersson

?

 

[zeke]

Bergeron 60.0%, 2.25, 1.59
Hertl 53.6%, 2.31, 1.78
Patterson 50.1%, 2.11, 1.69

 

[MindzEye]

He adjusts 2nd assists when calculating gsva.

I mean, does he really?

P1/60

McCann: 1.88
Kerfoot: 1.41

 

[zeke]

I mean, does he really?

P1/60

McCann: 1.88
Kerfoot: 1.41

Gsva is more than points.

 

[MindzEye]

?

Bergeron 60.0%, 2.25, 1.59
Hertl 53.6%, 2.31, 1.78
Patterson 50.1%, 2.11, 1.69

Natty reset to the 3 year sample when I tried to add the 4th, my bad

 

[MindzEye]

Gsva is more than points.

I'm aware, but Kerfoot has never produced strong analytics away from the line that he's recently been demoted from. McCann produces solid analytics regardless of who he plays with. McCann is also doing it at C this year, not on JT & Willy's wing.

What I'm saying is that Jared McCann is doing Jared McCann things and Kerfoot is benefitting from career high OISH, and stronger than usual xG numbers due to who he's playing with. That the projection of what value Kerfoot is going to bring the rest of the way is highly unlikely to turn out accurate.

 

[zeke]

I'm aware, but Kerfoot has never produced strong analytics away from the line that he's recently been demoted from. McCann produces solid analytics regardless of who he plays with. McCann is also doing it at C this year, not on JT & Willy's wing.

What I'm saying is that Jared McCann is doing Jared McCann things and Kerfoot is benefitting from career high OISH, and stronger than usual xG numbers due to who he's playing with. That the projection of what value Kerfoot is going to bring the rest of the way is highly unlikely to turn out accurate.

His model is sophisticated enough to see that.

 

[MindzEye]

His model is sophisticated enough to see that.

We'll see then. Should play out the rest of the way.

 

[zeke]

We'll see then. Should play out the rest of the way.

His model still likes McCann better going forward.

 

[Artnes]

 

[LeafOfFaith]

I just put him on my no-trade list. Fuck him.

 

[BG]

I'd imagine every Canadian team is on most guys lists right now, if they are playing in the US.

 

[Volcanologist]

not sure about anybody else but I'm tired of hearing about Manson. has to be the biggest most oft repeated rumour with zero legs I've ever heard. this guy has been rumoured to be coming here for what? 7 years now?

 

[MindzEye]

He's also not really that good and stuff. He's spent his career being meh as the Justin Holl on the Duck's matchup pairing. But his last name is Manson and his dad was an epic face puncher so he's probably gritty and tough and shit so Toronto media wants him here because he plays defence and Toronto doesn't know how to defence and face puncher son will make us good at the defence.

 

[mbow30]

Must hate the team that won the trade sending off his pops for the corpse of jyrki lumme

 

[zeke]

 

[Killer93]