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The Mother-fucking goddamn Off-season Thread

In fairness to the Leafs, they were giving him a chance this year. Many folks here, including myself, supported him being a healthy scratch in many games. He was just terrible and deserved to be in the pressbox at times. Good to be patient and give him all the opportunity in the world, but they can't be a liability.. A guy like Holmberg or McMann earned a chance to stick in the lineup way more than he did.
And despite that none of them got any real chances anyhow
 
I really don't see why GMs aren't cultivating their own bottom six. To me it's a lazy shortcut. A team's well paid scouting staff (management at least) should be able to find plumbers in later rounds and if they can't they're overpaid.

Fans whine about the players being overpaid. How about management?
 
I'm sorry but a man in his fifties needs to stop calling himself O-Dog if he's not on a message board. I just can't take him seriously for his takes and his general buffoonery.
 
I was just thinking about trading Tavares and what those options might look like.

IF he was willing to waive his NMC, it would probably be for a team close to Toronto (family).

So like Ottawa and Buffalo.

And I don't know what the ask might be?

Ottawa: JT for Norris and Giroux/Debrincat (if he isn't going to be signing long term with them?)

Buffalo: JT for Cozens and something?

 
I was just thinking about trading Tavares and what those options might look like.

IF he was willing to waive his NMC, it would probably be for a team close to Toronto (family).

So like Ottawa and Buffalo.

And I don't know what the ask might be?

Ottawa: JT for Norris and Giroux/Debrincat (if he isn't going to be signing long term with them?)

Buffalo: JT for Cozens and something?

Who is going to take on Tavares that Tavares would even consider? If he's really wanting to stay in the GTA its indeed Ottawa or the Sabres for proximity. I don't see Ottawa doing it as they have Giroux who is better at being Tavares than Tavares. So it's gotta be buffalo.

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Who is going to take on Tavares that Tavares would even consider? If he's really wanting to stay in the GTA its indeed Ottawa or the Sabres for proximity. I don't see Ottawa doing it as they have Giroux who is better at being Tavares than Tavares. So it's gotta be buffalo.

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One is 33 the other is 35.

One can play a passable Centre the other can't.

Is it enough for the money difference 🤷. Ottawa needs Centres.
 
One is 33 the other is 35.

One can play a passable Centre the other can't.

Is it enough for the money difference 🤷. Ottawa needs Centres.
When you gotta think of these sort of reasons it could happen? It won't happen.

They don't need Tavares. He's your Carey Price.

I think Treliving should talk him into SJ and get Karlsson. That's the splash you need now. Even if you throw in a first.
 
I was just thinking about trading Tavares and what those options might look like.

IF he was willing to waive his NMC, it would probably be for a team close to Toronto (family).

So like Ottawa and Buffalo.

And I don't know what the ask might be?

Ottawa: JT for Norris and Giroux/Debrincat (if he isn't going to be signing long term with them?)

Buffalo: JT for Cozens and something?

Lol, you think you’re getting actual value in a Tavares trade?
 


this is legit my biggest worry.

Dubas axing the pittsburgh people immediately means he thinks he can pull some of our key guys.

But do these guys really want to move to Pittsburgh to get paid likely much less money on a team going backwards?

and would jumping ship like that on the leafs hurt their future job prospects and tie them inexorably to Dubas or bust?


I really, really, really want Brad to pretty much take a shot with pretty much our entire current FO still intact. Even though he obviously will bring in some of this own people.
 
this is legit my biggest worry.

Dubas axing the pittsburgh people immediately means he thinks he can pull some of our key guys.

But do these guys really want to move to Pittsburgh to get paid likely much less money on a team going backwards?

and would jumping ship like that on the leafs hurt their future job prospects and tie them inexorably to Dubas or bust?
If Pridham gets the GM tag he should probably get a raise
 
Shanny should be doing evaluations and raises on all of Kyle's key people right now.

You wanted to be there, sure have at it. Our people stay though.
 
I really, really, really want Brad to pretty much take a shot with pretty much our entire current FO still intact. Even though he obviously will bring in some of this own people.
Why, just so you can give all the credit to Dubas if the team goes deep in the playoffs?

I'd have turfed Dubie's Soo connections and woke hires already, if the Leafs want a woman in the front office get one that can at least devote more than 20 mins a month to their job. I'd hire Ponder if she wanted to take a role with a team.
 
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