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The New Division

JaysCyYoung said:
Patrick Eaves
Jim O'Brien
Alexandre Daigle
Eric Chouinard
Martin Prusek
Karel Rachunek
Simon Lajeneusse

You want to play this game?
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You're drunk or on meds this morning. Outside of dawg, who was overhyped by the entire hockey world as a possible generational talent, not a single one of those players was massively overhyped.

Patrick eaves was never seen by us as anything other than a nice third liner, and possible second liner
Jim obrien? Seriously? Who has overhyped him? Show me. F*ck off.
Chouinard! My god. He was a laughingstock. Like the GM who picked him twice was.
Lajeunesse? A nothing prospect, never highly thought of by our fanbase. Never.
Rachunek? When he was playing well as a good top-4 D we all liked him. Nothing more. No one ever said Norris. Ever.
Prusek? Maybe the closest thing to proving your point. I never really was sold on him, but some of our press and fans thought too much of him.

Your list is ridiculous.
 
PlayerToBeNamedLater said:
Gardiner has played close to 100 NHL games and during that time, he has performed a top 4 role at a relatively high level.

Unless this is some sort of fluke, there really isn't much question what kind of role he will perform this coming season.
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He played 75 games as a rookie as a fairly solid top-4 calibre D. Then followed it up with a concussed season where he basically didn't play, and when he did, looked like a marginal talent. Then played really well in a handful of playoff games. I expect him to come in and solidify himself as a top 4 talent next season, but he needs more than 1 season to prove himself. For all we know he'll be the next Meszaros, who has a fantastic rookie season, and it was all downhill after that.
 
MindzEye said:
Not that I agree with Jays' argument (but that's based mostly on sample size and relative quality), but you realize that you're bad mouthing Schneider for being a "career backup" (who of course was only a backup because the starter in Vancouver was a consensus top 5 NHL goalie), when Hasek himself didn't become a starter until he was 27-28 years old, right?
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Go look up "cold war", "east bloc", and "fall of the Berlin Wall" on wikipedia please. Then come back to us.
 
theREALkoreaboy said:
You're drunk or on meds this morning. Outside of dawg, who was overhyped by the entire hockey world as a possible generational talent, not a single one of those players was massively overhyped.

Patrick eaves was never seen by us as anything other than a nice third liner, and possible second liner
Jim obrien? Seriously? Who has overhyped him? Show me. F*ck off.
Chouinard! My god. He was a laughingstock. Like the GM who picked him twice was.
Lajeunesse? A nothing prospect, never highly thought of by our fanbase. Never.
Rachunek? When he was playing well as a good top-4 D we all liked him. Nothing more. No one ever said Norris. Ever.
Prusek? Maybe the closest thing to proving your point. I never really was sold on him, but some of our press and fans thought too much of him.

Your list is ridiculous.
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You're absolutely right: Sens fans never pimped out those first and second round failures.
 
UWHabs said:
He played 75 games as a rookie as a fairly solid top-4 calibre D. Then followed it up with a concussed season where he basically didn't play, and when he did, looked like a marginal talent. Then played really well in a handful of playoff games. I expect him to come in and solidify himself as a top 4 talent next season, but he needs more than 1 season to prove himself. For all we know he'll be the next Meszaros, who has a fantastic rookie season, and it was all downhill after that.
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More like, he had an outstanding rookie season where he played the 3rd most minutes on the Leafs blueline (21:35) while playing at a 35 point pace. He had injuries issues last year and he was inexplicably sat out for most of the season, until the playoffs, when he was the Leafs best defenseman overall.
 
theREALkoreaboy said:
You don't really want to get into comparing drafting records, do you?
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Relevance to the discussion? But hey, if you want to pimp out the fact that you drafted Marian Hossa so long ago that the X-Files was the highest rated show on television and the Spice Girls were the world's biggest musical act, be my guest.
 
Isles Dynasty.

No team has had it's players more overrated than the Sens.

Leafs players are generally underrated. I mean, they had the 10th most in the league last year and everyone talks about how much they suck.

Come on.
 
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