I think out of everything he said, that part of it made the most sense to me. How many good, solidly impactful d are there in their late teens or even early 20s?If that’s the case, makes me wonder what would’ve happened if we’d stayed at 5. Trade the pick?
The thing is, trading away McKenna and potentially finding out soon after that he turns out to be crazy elite in his first year while the dman takes two years to cook and then turns out to be the next Klingberg, or even Carlson, is the surefire way to get yourself fired and destroy the rest of the Matthews era (and lose Matthews). In fact, if McKenna is amazing right out of the gate, you may not even be around to see the dman make his NHL debut. No one is going to be so risky to chance such an outcome. It'll be McKenna and there's not really much point in bothering to debate other scenarios.I think out of everything he said, that part of it made the most sense to me. How many good, solidly impactful d are there in their late teens or even early 20s?
Schaeffer is obviously a unicorn, but no one in this draft is on that level.
Hutson was a unicorn too, but he played 2 more years of college after he got picked (similar to what Chase Reid is likely to do).
Jake Sanderson played 2 more years of college but admittedly was pretty good after that
Faber played 3 more years of college, but was good right away
Luke Hughes played 2 years of college
Owen Power played 1 more year of college before stepping in, and he was the #1 pick
So maybe in a perfect case, one of those d play a couple more years in junior or college and then are immediately a top 4 guy in their rookie year. But I'm not sure you can really expect that with anyone in this class. May take a bit longer than that for them to get really going, if at all. I would have taken the D because they really fucking need one, but I wouldn't be ecstatic about the realistic timeline.
Yep. Happens every yearI’d imagine we start hearing this a lot more now.
Even nhl scouts are wrong a lot.It’s 100 % eye test plus they cover every amateur league in the world, so they’re not constantly updating their reports because frankly they don’t have the bandwidth
They are storytellers first and foremost
Ya. I love the stuff where they are like this great player but also does XYZ!This is better than he's the next Bobby Orr, or his ceiling is Beliveau but better skating and shot!!!!!
Speaking about draft picks and long timeline, the Leafs actually have a great opportunity to restock the system over the next two years with a #1 pick, and a full draft this year, and 8 picks next year including a 1st and 2 2nds and a nerd at the helm.
If they actually follow the data you could be looking at a real good young core around McKenna, Knies, Cowan in a few years.
Obviously I’d be willing to trade picks for help now, but getting good at drafting now would be huge for the long term window of this team.
There are second round skilled midget dmen in this draft too,
Nah. That all started at the world juniors. Laine won itWe saw this after the Matthews lotto too. Suddenly the magnifying glass came out for all his flaws, and high-minded “well maybe Laine is ackshually better, but the Leafs need a center so they should still take Matthews” think-pieces starting proliferating rapidly.
The Lord done blessed us!
Trust.That’s what Adam thought when he bit into that apple
Even nhl scouts are wrong a lot.
Outside of generational talents the first overall pick is often not the best guy.