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The Official 2026 Off-Season Thread: Revenge of the Nerds

Definitely, if Tre were still our GM, you know who he would pick....


So, who’s better?

The debate over the two players boils down to this: McKenna has the truly special, game-breaking talent, but Stenberg plays the harder, more translatable game. Some would rather take McKenna because they see a talent gap. Others lean to Stenberg because they think he’s a guy you win with.

When you’re spending a top pick on an average-sized winger who isn’t a blazer, which both aren’t, you have to project them into the Stanley Cup playoffs where they are going to need to compete hard to have success. That’s where some front offices favor Stenberg. The way he hunts pucks and creates offense in a simple yet highly skilled manner just looks more like winning playoff hockey. McKenna’s puck play can be incredible, but there’s a real fear among scouts that he will get pushed around when the games get heavy.

Deciding who goes first among the forwards will come down to a team’s philosophical preference and risk tolerance. Both project to be difference-makers at the top of an NHL lineup.

If you want the absolute highest offensive potential — the prospect who might win an Art Ross if everything goes well and runs a devastating power play for a decade — you bet on McKenna.

If you want a top offensive talent who has shown he has what it takes to carry a team and have success against pros despite his size, you take Stenberg.

For me, it’s basically a coin flip, but in my time doing this job, whenever there’s been a tie I’ve usually leaned to the more talented offensive player. There’s no right formula when it comes to ranking players, but anecdotally, I have found that this approach has tended to have favorable results. For that reason, I would lean toward McKenna. He’s been elite for longer, and despite the headaches his game may provide, I don’t think the compete differential is the same as the skill one between him and Stenberg.
 
Galaxy brained nonsense.

Do you take the guy whose upside if Kucherov or the guy whose upside is Brandon Hagel.

I just don't know how you can possibly choose between the two... .
 
Galaxy brained nonsense.

Do you take the guy whose upside if Kucherov or the guy whose upside is Brandon Hagel.

I just don't know how you can possibly choose between the two... .
If you think the first guy's downside is like current day Laine, and the second guy's downside is I dunno like a Knies or Point or something.

I think it's pretty obvious to go with the guy with a big ceiling. But if you do think that McKenna is going to lose when he makes it to the show, and is going to be an empty 60-70 point guy, I can see a reason to skip him.
 
If you think the first guy's downside is like current day Laine, and the second guy's downside is I dunno like a Knies or Point or something.

I think it's pretty obvious to go with the guy with a big ceiling. But if you do think that McKenna is going to lose when he makes it to the show, and is going to be an empty 60-70 point guy, I can see a reason to skip him.
I agree with the general point but it would be dumb to think this tbh. Nothing suggests sub ppg for McKenna.
 
I think this is even more ridiculous than laine matthews.

Am had some unknowns given the year in Switzerland.

McKenna has been slotted as the bpa in this draft since he was 13.
 
I think this is even more ridiculous than laine matthews.

Am had some unknowns given the year in Switzerland.

McKenna has been slotted as the bpa in this draft since he was 13.

Also, at least Laine had just done a bunch of impressive shit against high quality men's competition. Both in Liiga (playoffs MVP) at and the World Championships. He earned himself some pre draft hype by doing some pretty ridiculous shit for a 17 yr old.

Stenberg had similar numbers in the SHL as to what Laine had in Liiga, but didn't do a whole lot in the SHL playoffs (4 apples in 6 games) and in the World Championships has 4 apples in 4 games. Pretty okay production overall, but Laine created that hype by putting up 12 points (7 goals) in 10 games at the WC, and 10 goals in 18 on his way to a Liiga title before that.
 
AFP has updated their contract projections (with this seasons' Net Doms in brackets). This is not an exhaustive list, just players of interest for reasons of potential fit here, name brand/reputation, potential nerdies value, or names I've seen mentioned as options in other discussions.

Andersson: 6x 8.74 (4.3)
Raddysh: 6 x 8.0 (18.1)
Carlson: 3 x 7.0 (14.2)
Trouba: 4 x 6.4 (-.8)
Ferraro: 4 x 5.1 (1.5)
Shea: 4 x 4.36 (6.9)

Fwiw, the Coyle extension they had at 5.8 and he extended for 6. Though I think AFP had him at 3-4 years and the extension was 6 years.

Forwards:

Tuch: 7 x 10.1 (11.4)
Malkin: 1 x 6.8 (8.5)
Mantha: 4 x 6.3 (6.2)
Marchment: 3 x 5.7 (5.8)
McMann: 4 x 5.3 (1.0)
Jenner: 3 x 5.2 (2.3)
Arvidsson: 2 x 4.9 (10.5)
Laughton: 3 x 4.1 (-3)
P Kane: 1 x 3.3 (6.2)
Tarasenko: 1 x 3.4 (.7)
Carcone: 2 x 2.7 (.2)
Giroux: 1 x 2.5 (8.2)
McCarron: 2 x 2.0 (-7.6)
 
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Shit...if you want some fun numbers, they also have a list of extension eligible guys:

Makar, CaleCOLRDR28UFA-8$15,061,450.0013.27%$120,491,600.00$113,500,000.00Offseason 2026Extension
Hughes, QuinnMINLDL27UFA-8$15,061,450.0013.27%$120,491,600.00$113,500,000.00Offseason 2026Extension
Buium, ZeevLong TermVANLDL2110.2(c)NO7$9,651,283.338.50%$67,558,983.33$113,500,000.00Offseason 2026Extension
Byram, BowenBUFLD, RDL26UFA-7$9,521,388.908.39%$66,649,722.31$113,500,000.00Offseason 2026Extension
Dunn, VinceSEALDL30UFA-7$9,039,896.707.96%$63,279,276.93$113,500,000.00Offseason 2026Extension
Mateychuk, DentonLong TermCBJLDL22RFANO7$8,042,024.197.09%$56,294,169.36$113,500,000.00Offseason 2026Extension
Doughty, DrewLAKRDR37UFA-2$7,082,400.006.24%$14,164,800.00$113,500,000.00Offseason 2026Extension
Faulk, JustinDETRDR35UFA-3$7,033,216.676.20%$21,099,650.00$113,500,000.00Offseason 2026Extension
Karlsson, ErikPITRDR37UFA-3$6,628,400.005.84%$19,885,200.00$113,500,000.00Offseason 2026Extension
Orlov, DmitrySJSLDL35UFA-2$6,554,625.005.78%$13,109,250.00$113,500,000.00Offseason 2026Extension
Marino, JohnUTAHRDR30UFA-5$6,266,618.755.52%$31,333,093.75$113,500,000.00Offseason 2026Extension
Levshunov, ArtyomLong TermCHIRDR21RFANO6$6,185,750.005.45%$37,114,500.00$113,500,000.00Offseason 2026Extension
Ristolainen, RasmusPHIRDR32UFA-4$6,083,600.005.36%$24,334,400.00$113,500,000.00Offseason 2026Extension
 
AFP has updated their contract projections (with this seasons' Net Doms in brackets). This is not an exhaustive list, just players of interest for reasons of potential fit here, name brand/reputation, potential nerdies value, or names I've seen mentioned as options in other discussions.

Andersson: 6x 8.74 (4.3)
Raddysh: 6 x 8.0 (18.1)
Carlson: 3 x 7.0 (14.2)
Trouba: 4 x 6.4 (-.8)
Ferraro: 4 x 5.1 (1.5)
Shea: 4 x 4.36 (6.9)

Fwiw, the Coyle extension they had at 5.8 and he extended for 6. Though I think AFP had him at 3-4 years and the extension was 6 years.

Forwards:

Tuch: 7 x 10.1 (11.4)
Malkin: 1 x 6.8 (8.5)
Mantha: 4 x 6.3 (6.2)
Marchment: 3 x 5.7 (5.8)
McMann: 4 x 5.3 (1.0)
Jenner: 3 x 5.2 (2.3)
Arvidsson: 2 x 4.9 (10.5)
Laughton: 3 x 4.1 (-3)
P Kane: 1 x 3.3 (6.2)
Tarasenko: 1 x 3.4 (.7)
Carcone: 2 x 2.7 (.2)
Giroux: 1 x 2.5 (8.2)
McCarron: 2 x 2.0 (-7.6)


Carlson pretty tempting even at age 37 tbh. Andersson not so much.

Raddysh+Carlson the highest upside play, while leaving the Andersson overpay for someone else.

or maybe Carlson+Shea is the best play, given how risky that Raddysh contract looks.


just to pace the doms to 82gms to see if it makes much difference

Raddysh (30) 20.3
Carlson (37) 16.4
Shea (29) 7.1
Andersson (30) 4.4
Ferraro (28) 1.5
Trouba (32) -0.8

Arvidsson (33) 12.5
Malkin (40) 12.5
Tuch (30) 11.8
Giroux (39) 8.2
Kane (38) 7.6
Marchment (31) 7.0
Mantha (32) 6.3
Jenner (33) 2.8
McMann (30) 1.1
Tarasenko (35) 0.8
Carcone (30) 0.2
Laughton (32) -3.8
McCarron (31) -7.9



Jenner might seem like a good fit for 3C but he actually hasn't played much C the past couple years and i don't think he really can be considered a C anymore.
 
Raddysh + Shea and then see if we can swing a Carlo for Spence type move with Ottawa is probably the way.

We should consider some short term deals on those good olds up front as well. Though with McKenna finding another PP forward probably isn't as big a deal now.

But dropping Gino or Giroux into our top 9 wouldn't be a bad idea.
 
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