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Wilson is an upgrade on maybe the worst QB room in the NFL, but he's still fairly washed. He can make the Steelers a playoff team, but hang with Allen/Lamar etc, no.
Go take a peek at how well Lamar has faired against our team, regardless of
Who’s under center. It matters little. Let’s be real, if Trent Dilfer can win a Super Bowl then build an appropriate team and who knows what can happen.
 
Let’s be real, the Dolphins had one more win. The QB isn’t everything. It’s hella important but if the other pieces fall into place well, anything can happen.
 
Let’s be real, the Dolphins had one more win. The QB isn’t everything. It’s hella important but if the other pieces fall into place well, anything can happen.
no, not really. Of the last 20 years, there's what 1 outlier among Superbowl winning teams with non elite QB?

2017 Eagles with Nick Foles

That's the list
 
no, not really. Of the last 20 years, there's what two outliers among Superbowl winning teams with non elite QB?

2017 Eagles with Nick Foles
2012 Ravens with Joe Flacco

That's the list
are they QB only Teams though? High end talent across the board? O only? Solid defences? Lots more to teams than just a QB is all I’m getting at. You need the TEAM to be solid and not just have elite QB play
 
are they QB only Teams though? High end talent across the board? O only? Solid defences? Lots more to teams than just a QB is all I’m getting at. You need the TEAM to be solid and not just have elite QB play
sure, but if you don't have an elite QB, you're not winning anything. You can be elite everywhere else, but you can't run a Trent Dilfer or Brad Johnson out there and win anymore.
 
Is josh Allen elite?
i dunno. I find it funny we're having this debate. The Steelers have only won Superbowls with QBs that were considered among the best of their time in Bradshaw and Big Ben. Their downswings have generally been when they've had sub standard QB play.
 
Brock Purdy is the closest thing to the Dilfer/Foles conversation of not very good QB surrounded by an elite team, and the thing is Purdy at worst is slightly above average.

So i suppose if the Steelers can surround Wilson with the Niners cast i'd give them a chance.

There seems to be a fairly concrete tier list of QB these days

Mahomes

Allen, Lamar, Burrow ( would be tier 1, but GOAT is a thing)

Dak, Herbert, Tua, Hurts, Goff, Cousins, Herbert, Purdy i guess, Stroud, Kyler, Rodgers ( if not dead), Love
( arrange these dudes however you want)

I think you can win with any of the three tiers here, but anything below that and probably not
 
Brock Purdy is the closest thing to the Dilfer/Foles conversation of not very good QB surrounded by an elite team, and the thing is Purdy at worst is slightly above average.

So i suppose if the Steelers can surround Wilson with the Niners cast i'd give them a chance.

There seems to be a fairly concrete tier list of QB these days

Mahomes

Allen, Lamar, Burrow ( would be tier 1, but GOAT is a thing)

Dak, Herbert, Tua, Hurts, Goff, Cousins, Herbert, Purdy i guess, Stroud, Kyler, Rodgers ( if not dead), Love
( arrange these dudes however you want)

I think you can win with any of the three tiers here, but anything below that and probably not
I’d agree. I don’t think Pickett is anything special. I’ll never argue that. I also won’t debate that I think they can go far with him because I don’t. Because they are single games and not series, I do believe that elite is not necessarily the only answer as there are only a few. Any given sunday yada yada. So many factors go into it.
 
I’d agree. I don’t think Pickett is anything special. I’ll never argue that. I also won’t debate that I think they can go far with him because I don’t. Because they are single games and not series, I do believe that elite is not necessarily the only answer as there are only a few. Any given sunday yada yada. So many factors go into it.
But you need at least very good. Steelers dont have that, probably even now.

And its any given 4 sundays.

Maybe a below avg guy can win one playoff game against the odds, but 3-4? Nah. I dont really care how amazing the rest of the group is, and the Niners are different cause its not just the best D in the NFL, its the top RB and 3 very high end passing options.
 
Purdy was 5th in Passing Yards, 3rd in Passing TDs, and 1st in Passing Rating. How he's not second tier, I dunno.
Because he's the 4th best offensive player on his own team.

He might be there, i dunno, but he's surrounded by the most help in the NFL and is in a system famous for not caring who the QB actually is
 
Swift to the Bears. I was hoping for Barkley, but I don't mind this.
I think 8M for Swift on the opening day of FA is an interesting salvo. It could be a bargain, but it could be terrible if the market is cold to Henry/Jacobs/Swift and they sign for similar.

Swift played behind the most talented OL in the NFL and in an offense tailored a certain way
 
I'm the opposite. Trade fields. Get Caleb winning super bowls while cheap
It should be automatic, with all do respect to Fields who has taken strides, he's not a 40M QB and hes going to be paid as one regardless soon. Williams is in that must draft tier or even Maye if you want to go full on racist about it
 
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