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Apparently his SB game plan as the Giants’ DC to counter the Bills’ K-Gun offense is displayed in the hall of fame.

The first three SBs in New England were heavily dependent on the D, not TFB.

Yeah people seem to forget how borderline pedestrian Brady was early in his career…didn’t crack 30 TD in a season until Moss showed up, his 8th season in the league…..prior to that he was always in double digits for interceptions, was sub-200 first downs per year, had never cracked 93 in QB rating for a season in those first 7 full seasons. (He'd go on to have 12 years above 93, 8 over 100)

He had his magical playoff performances which where unquestionably amazing clutch moments….but he was really just a very good, top 10-15 QB league wide for those early pre-Moss years.

There’s nothing particularly elite about Brady during that first run of 3 SuperBowl wins….that Belichick couldn’t have achieved with another dozen QBs around the league. (His stats were nearly identical to Jake Delhome & Trent Green in the 04’ for instance….and was getting blown out of the water by the likes of Daunte Culpepper, Donovan McNabb, Favre, Manning, etc)

To his credit though, Brady continued to develop in a way I don’t know if we’ve ever witnessed another player accomplish at any position, let alone QB…..he dramatically increased the speed with which he got the ball out, his pre-snap processing, and his overall downfield arm strength, to become not just the most successful QB ever, but the best period.

I’d often believed Belichick was short changed almost for the amount of credit he deserved for all those Super Bowl wins, because of how much Brady was lauded……but in the end, I think BB could have prob won 3 Superbowls without Tom...but it’s only together that they reach 6.

Brady obviously proved he became a QB that could win one of his own……but I still question if he’d ever have developed into who he became (and been given the snaps to do so) had he landed anywhere else, and guided to that early success riding Bills coattails.


I could never enjoy either of them while with the Pats, but am lowkey excited to become a UNC fan and follow Bill’s transition to college.
 
Walsh won with Young as well as Montana. And Starr was never the best QB in the NFL during his career. Unitas, for one, was much more talented.

Walsh was the original Belichick…..his book on football is the bible that every coach who came after would study under. (When it went out of print, copies of it on eBay soared to astronomical prices)

Likewise the day Belichick writes his, it will become the New Testament of football coaching.


……I don’t think there’s ever been a football coach who has studied the history of the sport to the degree Bill has either. He’s as much a hall of fame level historian of the sport, as he is a coach.
 
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Gronk was crucial for TFB too. He was a game changer.

The wheels came off for Belichick due to poor drafting, not the coaching.

100%

Small hat tip to Bill for going so TE heavy and seeing the kinds of advantages a Gronk/Hernandez two headed monster could provide.

But yeah, now that you say it Gronk is actually the most under-appreciated guy of the lot….any other scenario he’d be the big name on the marquee of that second three Super Bowl run…..but because he wasn’t around for the first one, he gets relegated to almost an afterthought….
 
and even with his poor drafting….Belichick arguably revolutionized drafting across all sports by being one of the first to admit it’s a crap shoot, and trading down to draft volume is the only way to consistently beat the house.
 
Yeah, but he made some weird choices. He almost became a parody of his iconoclastic self.

Gronk… at his peak was basically unstoppable. Faster than LBs and waaay bigger than poor DBs that he actively sought out to blow up.

It was the injuries that limited him. I recall the Ravens, in particular, who targeted him.
 
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They used to make jokes like this about the Leafs.

Actually, it was no joke. Players and agents used to tell Leafs scouts not to bother drafting them because they wouldn't play for Ballard.
 
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