The Stats Thread

[GrandWazoo]

All those stats to me are like financial metrics that you use to screen stocks to narrow it down to a few that you can analyze further. The is not a single metric that can tell you how well a stock will perform, same thing for stats and players.

 

[CH1]

All those stats to me are like financial metrics that you use to screen stocks to narrow it down to a few that you can analyze further. The is not a single metric that can tell you how well a stock will perform, same thing for stats and players.

Speak for yourself.

 

[BKerr]

The qoc is usually based on the corsi of players you match against. Though it can be fenwick... even strength points plus minus or something else too. Most use corsi/minutes of ice time though.

 

[CH1]

Patches leads the team with + 12. Solid season thus far.

 

[CaptainBolduke]

"Fenwick" and "corsi" are terrible names for stats.

 

[CH1]

Worst minus. Bourque -9. winner of one way ticket to Steeltown.

 

[Sal_Butera]

"Fenwick" and "corsi" are terrible names for stats.

May want to email Jim Corsi his name sucks.

 

[CaptainBolduke]

Done.

Maybe I need to make up a stat and call it "The Bolduke."

 

[CaptainBolduke]

Worst minus. Bourque -9. winner of one way ticket to Steeltown.

The downtown Toronto elites are gonna laugh at you while drinking their 10 dollar cups of coffee if you continue to talk about -/+.

 

[CH1]

I urge them to petition Nonis to make a claim for the statistically misunderstood Bourque.

 

[GrandWazoo]

The qoc is usually based on the corsi of players you match against. Though it can be fenwick... even strength points plus minus or something else too. Most use corsi/minutes of ice time though.

See, that's bad because corsi or fenwick don't account for zone starts and QoC. I know it's a vicious circle but corsi on it's own is not very useful.

 

[hockeylover]

I think even if the stats aren't perfect, over time people will find something that widely accepted, useful, and close enough not to worry about any of the imperfections. I think we're getting closer to that.

Save Percentage isn't perfect either but I think we're at that point now with it. Unless you're Count I guess.

 

[lecoqsportif]

-9 means something when the rest of team is in the +

 

[hockeylover]

-9 means something when the rest of team is in the +

What about +18 and the rest of your team is in the -? What do you take from that?

 

[CH1]

What about +18 and the rest of your team is in the -? What do you take from that?

Sign that guy to a long term deal.

 

[hockeylover]

Sign that guy to a long term deal.

Well, that would've been quite the disaster.

 

[BKerr]

See, that's bad because corsi or fenwick don't account for zone starts and QoC. I know it's a vicious circle but corsi on it's own is not very useful.

All stats have to be looked at in multiple layers.

If you look at qoc and ignore zone starts you are leaving out a huge part of the equation.

 

[CH1]

Well, that would've been quite the disaster.

I knew it was a setup.

 

[CaptainBolduke]

CH is on top of everything these days. Firing back at the Toronto elites.

 

[Habspatrol]

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