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William Carrier to the Canes

cmon3 said:
Meh. Who knows. But we haven’t really lost anyone we weren’t expecting to lose. Especially after bowing out early again in the playoffs. You can’t bring everyone back and make significant changes. If they overpay for Guentzel and Skeji and Turbo and Pesce they not only lose cap space but where then can you make significant changes?

I liked Guentzel but he didn’t want to sign here. We need more ass in the top 6. If 2/6 are Aho and Jarvis then Guentzel and Turbo mean you can’t get physically stronger there. Now we can adjust things. Might take some time.
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Nah we don't know but I can't help get the feeling that him going to Columbus at this time screwed us over a bit when it comes to contacts with both agents and other gm's.
 
Waddell didn't do contract work here though. Like none of it. And it's not like Tulsky doesn't have anyone's email addy. The only thing it cost us so far was bandwidth during that little stunt when he negotiated with Necas directly while stringing Carolina along with the 4th pick. That was never gonna happen anyway, so I'm not even sure how much time he wasted. Waddell was a glorified front man here, there's no sense mythologizing the guy.
 
Maybe but of all the guys we lost who did we really want to keep - Skeij and Guentzel. It’s a big outflow but we needed that.
 
cmon3 said:
Maybe but of all the guys we lost who did we really want to keep - Skeij and Guentzel. It’s a big outflow but we needed that.
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God yes. This team was probably one year overdue for a kick in the butt roster-wise. I was never counting on Guentzel like you guys, and the only one I'm really missing is Skjei ... and it's EARLY days yet.
 
StormChaserBH said:
Ya, I mean I like the player in general. I'm not sure it'll shake out this way but the "Dom" tweeted that Carrier-Staal-Martinook would be the most Canes line ever.
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Skjei and Guentzel went to teams in states with no state income tax. I haven‘t seen how Skjei’s contract is structured, but 84% of Guentzel’s was signing bonus. That’s a huge difference.
 
As a fan I'll miss Turbo and Noesen, but as a guy who wants to win a cup only Skjei hurts and even that isn't an OMG thing for me - he was never as good with anyone as he was Pesce.

It's <4 hours into free agency, they'll find the right guys even if they aren't big names.
 
polarbare said:
As a fan I'll miss Turbo and Noesen, but as a guy who wants to win a cup only Skjei hurts and even that isn't an OMG thing for me - he was never as good with anyone as he was Pesce.

It's <4 hours into free agency, they'll find the right guys even if they aren't big names.
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this is spot on. Except I won’t miss Turbo.
 
Actually I thought both Skjei and Orlov played their best regular season hockey when they were paired together when Pesce was hurt. Skjei has been carrying Pesce on his back for two solid years now. Again, Brind'Amour's penchant for sticking with his guys both giveth and taketh away. In the grand scheme it might actually be good to take away his security blanket on D.
 
The only problem about the Tulsky stuff is that once that crowd latch onto something, they are slow to let it go. So we'll be hearing about it forever. I mean, all those people want is for the Canes to re-sign all their favorite players AND go get the biggest free agent name on the market. You know, simple stuff. Low bar.
 
cmon3 said:
Between the bitching about tax differences and talking about Tulsky being a total failure this is the only readable site.
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NC should get rid of income taxes so our sports teams can be better. The added tourism and other dollars from improved teams will more than offset the lost tax revenue. That’s just sound fiscal policy. I read it somewhere.

Also, I saw a guy on Tik Tok who once hired someone from Indeed so he must be an expert, and he said that if any new manager doesn’t win the Cup in his first 3 weeks on the job they should be fired. I’m not sure how it applies to jobs that don’t involve winning Cups but he said it very authoritatively so it’s 100% true. So we should fire Tulsky.

There ya go. Did I ruin this site for you?
 
The signing is finally official.

Yr 1 1M Base & 1.5M Signing Bonus
Yr 2 1.45M & 1.05M SB
Yr 3 775K & 1.525M SB
Yr 4 775K & 925K SB
Yr 5 & 6: 775K & 725K SB

He has a full NMC in the first 5 years and a 10 team NTC in the last year.
 
someone tell me what I'm missing, because that contact feels nuts. I'm OK with it because of the AAV and all, but did they need the NMC to get him to come? and if so, why? and why 6 years? I'm stumped.
 
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