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World Cup

worm said:
yep
I think it was on right before the gold medal hockey game

if memory serves me Bernard had two chances to win that and they blew them both
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that was the friday night before the Semi final between Canada and Slovakia.
 
BKerr said:
Sure and I've said I'd like to see a ten team tournament, with some qualifying down from 16 teams.

Some of the hyperbole here though from '87, its a little much.
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Agreed on both points (ten or twelve teams would be great), although I can understand his passion, some of the hyperbole got to be a bit too excessive. You can disagree with people without going that far.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
Nope. No contradictions whatsoever. You have nothing.

You didn't even know that the UK was a country and you expect people to take you seriously on this particular topic?
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your argument that both gbr and wales/scotland/england are viable "true international" entities literally invalidates all your previous arguments.
 
I literally provided an explanation with historical context for every single question you posed to me and you still don't understand.
 
For the record, the British teams were actually severely harmed in the late 1960s and early 1970s by the unique arrangement that they have in the international game.

George Best, Denis Law, Bobby Charlton, Bobby Moore, Willie Morgan, Martin Buchan, and Pat Jennings would have been a World Cup contending squad.
 
yes, you have made it clear that the only argument you care about is "any setup can be True International as long as it happened before I was born".
 
No, any set-up can be a true international if it was invented and agreed upon by said parties, and occurred decades before any other person followed suit, thereby establishing a unique precedent that isn't followed by any other participants.

You do realize that 1872 was 146 years ago, no? FIFA and UEFA aren't going to enforce any changes at this point.

You're being very weird about this whole thing though. I really don't know why you both care and simultaneously don't understand to the degree that you do.
 
There's nothing weird.

I finally got you to admit all your other arguments were fake arguments, and the only thing which matters to your definiton of True International is tradition.

Which I knew from the start, and now you know too.
 
You didn't get anyone to admit anything. You seem to have this bizarre inability to understand historical context when I have outright explained to you why there are seeming discrepancies or anachronisms in different sports with different countries.

If you would like me to continue educating you on the matter, I would be happy to do so.
 
BKerr said:
The Gold Medal Hockey game was held on the final Sunday of the games. the only two events that day were hockey and the closing ceremonies. The closing ceremonies began hours after the golden goal was scored. They weren't tuned into the hockey thinking that they wanted to watch Curling or Bobsledding.
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in Vancouver curling was on before the gold medal game
 
JaysCyYoung said:
You didn't get anyone to admit anything. You seem to have this bizarre inability to understand historical context when I have outright explained to you why there are seeming discrepancies or anachronisms in different sports with different countries.

If you would like me to continue educating you on the matter, I would be happy to do so.
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I agree - all that matters to your definiton of true international is history/tradition.

all that junk about national/ethnic pride/identity cultural rivalries etc etc was nonsense.

whatever the setup is, it can be True International as long as it's been around a long time.
 
zeke said:
I agree - all that matters to your definiton of true international is history/tradition.

all that junk about national/ethnic pride/identity cultural rivalries etc etc was nonsense.

whatever the setup is, it can be True International as long as it's been around a long time.
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:thumbsup(22):
 
JaysCyYoung said:
You're absolutely right: they're not life and death. But I also think you can be empathetic to people with quality national sides who feel excluded or offended that they were not able to participate in this tournament and were forced into a bizarre random amalgamation with other countries, some of whom they have historical enmity or rivalries with.
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damn that sounds almost like a twitter social justice tweet, please tell me you aren't sliding over to the "even if their feeling of offence is silly, if they are offended, we must rectify it" view of the world
 
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