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No, any set-up can be a true international if it was invented and agreed upon by said parties, and occurred decades before any other person followed suit, thereby establishing a unique precedent that isn't followed by any other participants.

You do realize that 1872 was 146 years ago, no? FIFA and UEFA aren't going to enforce any changes at this point.

You're being very weird about this whole thing though. I really don't know why you both care and simultaneously don't understand to the degree that you do.

Why are you bashing your head against a brick wall? Only Zeke doesn't understand or is being obtuse about it.
 
Do people really forget how terrible hockey in Sochi was?

I loved that hockey. To name one example, the semifinal encounter between Canada and the U.S. at Sochi was about a thousand times better from both an execution and entertainment standpoint than the sloppy, loosey-goosey crap we witnessed between the two nations on Tuesday.
 
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Even though he would still be under 24 in 4 yrs, Connor McDavid says his preference would be to play for Team Canada next time. Makes sense.
 
Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun
Even though he would still be under 24 in 4 yrs, Connor McDavid says his preference would be to play for Team Canada next time. Makes sense.

You mean that his allegiance is to the out dated concept of the nation state of his birth and not the brave new world of playing for mother Europe or the north american Fatherland?

Weird.
 
You mean that his allegiance is to the out dated concept of the nation state of his birth and not the brave new world of playing for mother Europe or the north american Fatherland?

Weird.

Does this pretty much confirm what we've said all along about the tourney? I'd say coming from Connor McDavid it's pretty strong. Imagine now the Euro guys(i mean zeke and others can't be that naive not to recognize that those guys care even more) and how they feel.
 
Does this pretty much confirm what we've said all along about the tourney? I'd say coming from Connor McDavid it's pretty strong. Imagine now the Euro guys(i mean zeke and others can't be that naive not to recognize that those guys care even more) and how they feel.

The best player on the best idea for a team ever, doesn't want to play for the best idea for a team ever....ever again.

Poor Zeke.
 
Does this pretty much confirm what we've said all along about the tourney? I'd say coming from Connor McDavid it's pretty strong. Imagine now the Euro guys(i mean zeke and others can't be that naive not to recognize that those guys care even more) and how they feel.

Again, do they care what these athletes feel? They just want their "better" hockey.

Seems like everything else is secondary.
 
It's quite bizarre. There are very few stubborn enough to maintain this argument after seeing how successful and brilliant this tournament has been. I'm surprised there are any naysayers left to be honest.

What's bizarre (not to mention unpatriotic of you) is that you have never had an appreciation for best-on-best international hockey. Your opinion is therefore worth nothing. (That goes for zeke too).

Most of the people excited about this tournament are the same type who attend NHL all-star games, weren't major international hockey fans to begin with, and/or are too stupid/oblivious to realize that it isn't best on best.
 
The hockey being played this week is not remotely comparable to the NHL All-Star game in any way. Silly comparison IMO.
 
The hockey being played this week is not remotely comparable to the NHL All-Star game in any way. Silly comparison IMO.

Yeah in terms of compete level it's been quite a few notches above(plus All Star game is mostly about relaxing and having fun) so i don't disagree with you...Again though, some players naturally want to win so it's not so shocking what we're seeing. McDavid has been amazing to watch yet it's obvious now on what team he'd rather play.
 
The hockey being played this week is not remotely comparable to the NHL All-Star game in any way. Silly comparison IMO.

+1

Yeah, I've never agreed with people saying that. The compete level is pretty high though some of the play has been pre season sloppy.
 
How can anyone say this isn't best on best? There were parameters built into the teams, but the teams are all absolutely stacked. Shit USA left Kessel at home!?!

As for McDavid, of course he wants to play for Team Canada - unless TNA win it, there is very little prestige in being placed on Team ELC.

The thing that isn't being talked about, is that McDavid is already looking forward to playing in this tournament again in 4 years.
 
USA ****ed the dog by leaving out a bunch of players to build a team that could beat Canada. In the end, they needed skill. Not sure what happened to Finland, but it appears they made the right line-up choices, but didn't mesh quickly enough.
 
From what I've seen, the quality of the hockey has been pretty good, especially on Team North America. I have enjoyed some of the league's All-Star Games in the past too.

It's just not a proper replacement for the Olympics, and that's okay to acknowledge too. It's not necessarily one or the other.

I don't know why you keep comparing it to all star games whether or not you feel it's an "all star format". Watch more than a few highlights, it's nothing like that.
 
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