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OT: American Politics

I would love to see the numbers of how many people polled who are opposed to same-sex marriage consider themselves non-reglious.

If there are all of these great sociological reasons to oppose it apart from religious reasons, there must be a fair number of them.
 
hockeylover said:
I would love to see the numbers of how many people polled who are opposed to same-sex marriage consider themselves non-reglious.

If there are all of these great sociological reasons to oppose it apart from religious reasons, there must be a fair number of them.
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Heh.

Funny thing is that I was baptized, I've read the Bible several times, I will speak the Lord's Prayer, and I believe in a greater power.

None of that gives me the right to oppose equal rights.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
Heh.

Funny thing is that I was baptized, I've read the Bible several times, I will speak the Lord's Prayer, and I believe in a greater power.

None of that gives me the right to oppose equal rights.
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There are more than enough religious people in support of equal rights though.

I just have yet to meet any non-religious people who oppose it. Which I find interesting. Maybe some of you have.
 
I'll never understand it. No one is telling KB he can't believe in his flying spaghetti monster because they don't agree with it. Why does anyone think they have a right to tell people what they cannot do with their lives because you don't agree with it. Basic human decency dictates that we should respect everyones rights to live their lives the way they see fit, whether they are religious, gay, black, not of this world, whatever. You don't have to agree with it, but why the hell does anyone think they need to prevent two complete strangers, with no relation to your life whatsoever, from getting married.

If you are right, god will be the one to judge, not you. Be a good christian and treat others as you would like to be treated.
 
MapleLeafBlueJayBoy said:
Story out tonight saying that former classmates of Mitt Romney are saying he was a bully and shaved one kids head.
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i've seen numerous quotes from former classmates that say that story is completely preposterous. if we wanna go back to high school and college days, i'm guessing hopeychange comes out WAY behind when its all said and done.
 
from CNN:

"Late Thursday, the Romney campaign provided statements from other former classmates of the GOP contender.

"Mitt was a thoughtful guy with a great sense of humor who cared about his classmates. He had a good perspective on how to balance all the pressures high school students face. He would never go out and do anything mean spirited. Clownish, yes. Never mean," Richard Moon, one ex-classmate said in the statement furnished by the campaign.

"Mitt never had a malicious bone in his body – trying to imply or characterize him as a bully is absurd," John French, another former classmate, said in another statement released by Romney's staff.

Romney campaign spokeswoman Andrea Saul said French "wasn't involved in incident and doesn't remember it happening."
 
theREALkoreaboy said:
no its not. calling me every name in the book for supporting traditional marriage would be the same as me calling supporters of gay marriage pedophiles and creeps. BOTH things are wrong. and i'm not doing it, but many of your pals here are.
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If you really think you're getting called those names only because you oppose gay marriage... well... I'm not sure what to tell you.

In the meantime, care to address leafman's post?
 
theREALkoreaboy said:
you have lost all right to talk about "bigotry" and "intolerance" here. the level of bigotry and intolerance you have shown repeatedly to people of faith in this thread and elsewhere far surpasses any "intolerance" that i have shown defending traditional marriage.
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When have I shown intolerance towards people of faith? I may say things that offend them about the object of their faith, but I'm extremely tolerant concerning their right to believe whatever the want to believe in, regardless of how ridiculous I find it to be. You're mistaking "intolerance" for what it is, offensive remarks about the actual belief system itself.

"Offensive" is a tag that I'm more than willing to accept, "intolerant" though, complete horseshit.

Tolerance or toleration is the practice of permitting a thing of which one disapproves, such as social, ethnic, sexual, or religious practices.
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I'm the very picture of tolerance. I permit a lot of things I disagree with...
 
corksens said:
This board claims to be anti-religion, but I really only see their ire expressed towards Christianity.

Leafovic called Mary a "whore", but I have a hard time believing he'd call Mohammed a pedophile.
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Just to reiterate. Muhammed was a pedo.

As for the first portion though...I've stated this before Corks and for whatever reason it hasn't sunk in: In 2006, 74.8% of all Canadians self reported as Christians (of various denominations). Muslims? 2.7%

Why should we allot equal time to discuss the faith of 2.7% of the population, as we do to discuss the faith of 74.8% of the country? It's not like Islam doesn't come up regularly on this board as well...and it generally gets abused when it does.
 
so sad. i really didn't think kb would stoop to a new low.

possibly shunning his kids and saying that what they have with their partner is not real "marriage".

aren't traditiona/conservative people supposed to value family?
 
Leafovic said:
so sad. i really didn't think kb would stoop to a new low.

possibly shunning his kids and saying that what they have with their partner is not real "marriage".

aren't traditiona/conservative people supposed to value family?
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Family doesn't include dem God-hating, angry queers and fairies.
 
sir pyscho sexy said:
Well... that's an entirely different debate, and a sideshow to the whole gay marriage thing.

And for the record, ME has already said he's not tolerant of religious zealots. And you're completely and utterly missing the point on the Indians.

You're also doing a good job of lumping in deliberate hyperbole and sarcasm with serious points... it's disingenuous not to separate the two. But I think you know this.
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I appreciate the support, but the word tolerance has a very specific meaning, one that KB (surprise, surprise) has been misusing to suit his personal narrative.

I absolutely tolerate the concept of a religious zealot having the freedom to believe whatever the **** they want. Being "tolerant" doesn't include agreeing with them, or speaking nicely about their beliefs, simply tolerating their existence despite my personal distaste for them. Until I start a campaign to abolish religion, I'm being tolerant of religion. The word is very specific.
 
theREALkoreaboy said:
i wouldnt love them any less, i wouldnt think they made a "choice" to be gay, i would hope they could find someone to love, share their lives with, and be happy, and i wouldnt call their relationship a "marriage".
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That's a load of rich, creamery butter. Either that or you are in fact worse than Dick Cheney of all people. Even he has seen the light on the subject when it effected him personally.
 
I'd like to believe that, mindz.

But then again, it wouldn't be the first time that a very-immoral individual claimed moral superiority to mask their immoral nature. Kb just might be one of those people.

Ie Similar to the person that hates gays so openly and harshly to try to hide the fact that they are gay.
 
theREALkoreaboy said:
my god. does this ever capture PERFECTLY the zeitgeist (thats for you, jcy) of modern morality.

-nothing is sacred
-everything is relative
-i stand for nothing
-except for me
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What stunning, reductionist arrogance. Just because you can't imagine humility, community, and spirituality outside of your world view doesn't mean other people cannot.
 
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