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OT: American Politics

TheCountofMonteCristo said:
Obama just has to use the tried and true, I didn't know line. It worked for Reagan in Iran-Contra, why not for him too?
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Considering the fact that he attended less then half the security meetings....this will be real bad for him. With overtones of a coverup.

Too bad...just when i thoight a landslide wss in the bag.
 
Never seen anyone so happy that someone died as the right in the US who think they have Obama. If I were a conspiracy guy, I would say the GOP orchestrated the death to profit from it.

Obama should say that to Romney in the debate, "you must be the only American happy with the death because you think you can score cheap political points from it".
 
TheCountofMonteCristo said:
Never seen anyone so happy that someone died as the right in the US who think they have Obama. If I were a conspiracy guy, I would say the GOP orchestrated the death to profit from it.

Obama should say that to Romney in the debate, "you must be the only American happy with the death because you think you can score cheap political points from it".
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Who is "happy" as you claim? That's just nutty on your part.
 
Krustchev said:
Who is "happy" as you claim? That's just nutty on your part.
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Its the usual two bit phoney indignation that is nothing more then an attmpt to deflect.

obama first priority this year was to raise money for his re-coronation. Maybe he should of been more concerns with the affairs of the state. Like the Commender in Chief title points out.
 
Krustchev said:
Who is "happy" as you claim? That's just nutty on your part.
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Romney seems happy. Fox is happy.

I know you and many of your ilk hate Obama, that is fine (yes I know you voted for him but only because you thought McCain was worse).

You know Romney won't do any better, especially foreign policy wise as the quagmire the US finds itself in in the Middle East can't be resolved by anyone. Still Romney will yap about some mysterious cover up, claim he will be different even though his policies as set out in his campaign will be no different foreign policy wise than Obama's.

Anyway, if they vote for Bain Capital November 6, they get what they deserve.
 
HabsAddict said:
Its the usual two bit phoney indignation that is nothing more then an attmpt to deflect.

obama first priority this year was to raise money for his re-coronation. Maybe he should of been more concerns with the affairs of the state. Like the Commender in Chief title points out.
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Name one President who hasn't cared more about being elected than governing during the fourth year.
 
Re: OT: Canadian Politics

theREALkoreaboy said:
no, its not. drummond said the cost of public services is not the problem. education is being provided well, and at a cost that is very competitive compared to most other jurisdictions. the economist paid to study this problem disagrees with you.
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Drummond Report Education: Ontario Should Make Do With Fewer Teachers

TORONTO - Ontario should produce fewer teachers, forcing existing ones to teach bigger classes and retire later, Don Drummond recommended Wednesday in his highly anticipated report on reducing the province's deficit.

The province should also aim to reduce pension contributions, since it matches what the teachers pay in, and ask school boards for a review of benefits, the economist said.

"The typical teacher retires at 59, having worked for 26 years, and then collects a pension for 30 years," Drummond said in his report. "A higher average retirement age would reduce the need for lower benefits in the future."

Drummond also found the government needs to address the "overproduction" of teachers, given that the number of new teachers now exceeds that of new retirees by 7,600 a year.

When it comes to Premier Dalton McGuinty's flagship program, full-day kindergarten, Drummond agrees there are proven benefits. But, he said, "in the current fiscal climate, the commission is concerned that the timing is inappropriate."

He would like to scrap the plan — which will cost $1.5 billion a year when fully implemented — but said that if the government insisted on going ahead it should at least delay full implementation to 2017-18 from 2014-15.

Costs could be further reduced by bringing in one teacher for about 20 students instead of one teacher and an early childhood educator for 26 students.

The Liberals should also try to offset some costs by getting commitments on wage increases, class sizes and non-teaching staff from school boards and unions.

Class sizes should be capped at 23 students instead of 20 in primary school, Drummond recommends. Average class sizes in Grades 4 to 8 should be increased from 24.5 to 26 and secondary schools should increase average class sizes to 24 students from 22.

Non-teaching positions, the report argues, should be reduced by 70 per cent.

Finance Minister Dwight Duncan already said he wouldn't scrap full-day kindergarten but on Wednesday hinted he was also unlikely to consider a revamp of the program, as Drummond suggested.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/02/15/drummond-report-education-teachers_n_1279607.html
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Uh oh. Google disagrees with your assertion.
 
HabsAddict said:
If i was king, l would hang the makers of half the programming....and resurect Carl Sagen.
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(afraid I'm at the mercy of meme spelling)
 
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Re: OT: Canadian Politics

blacksheep said:
Mike Harris made some draconian cuts to education during his reign. He forced many regional school boards to merge, and that was a big help.
But frankly, we're at the point where we just need to cut bait with these multiple, publicly-funded boards. Reduce the three into one, and have that one and that one ONLY paid for with taxes. The current setup, where we have three school boards all duplicating each other and eating from the public trough, has to go.
As do the teachers like KB who can somehow manage to post all ****ing day long and claim that he's "on break." No other teacher who posts here posts as often as KB. No other.
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Mike The Knife was also a former teacher when he did it.
 
Habsy said:
Fair point.
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Just want to point out how unbelievably refreshing it is to see someone on this board utter something as simple as these two words........everyone's so caught up in proving to everyone how smart they are, no one is ever willing to acknowledge when someone else makes a decent point or that someone provided something that enabled them to become more informed.

More of us (myself included) should follow this lead.
 
TheCountofMonteCristo said:
Romney seems happy. Fox is happy.

I know you and many of your ilk hate Obama, that is fine (yes I know you voted for him but only because you thought McCain was worse).
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Sweetheart, if I vote for Romney, it will because I think he will be less worse than a second term of Obama. Neither guy excites me much.
 
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