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OT: American Politics

Krustchev said:
If he's opposed to abortion then he would be opposed to PP, wouldn't he? I used to be pro-choice but not so much anymore, yet I also do not believe in God. My anti-abortion view (except in the case of rape, incest, etc.) has zero to do with religion.
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Turn in your Torah bubba.
 
A lot of anti-abortionists feel it is wrong without any religious undertones to it. I think killing a child that can't defend itself is wrong. I also know that there are thousands and thousands of couples unable to conceive that would love to raise that child. I let my daughter make her choice and even warned her of the life-changing aspects of parenthood. She chose to have her baby and couldn't imagine life with her now.
 
except the fact that it is not a child.


Habsy said:
A lot of anti-abortionists feel it is wrong without any religious undertones to it. I think killing a child that can't defend itself is wrong. I also know that there are thousands and thousands of couples unable to conceive that would love to raise that child. I let my daughter make her choice and even warned her of the life-changing aspects of parenthood. She chose to have her baby and couldn't imagine life with her now.
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A lot of anti-abortionists feel it is wrong without any religious undertones to it. I think killing a child that can't defend itself is wrong. I also know that there are thousands and thousands of couples unable to conceive that would love to raise that child.
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There are already 1000's and 1000's of unwanted children in the foster system. Those couples should be queing up to get ahold of those kids. Killing a child that's defenseless is debate that's been rehashed in here a million times so I'm going to avoid it. But I think even if you reform the adoptions system, including allowing gay couples to adopt, you're still going to have scores and scores of unwated kids. I'm not sure how that benefits anyone.
 
Habsy said:
A lot of anti-abortionists feel it is wrong without any religious undertones to it. I think killing a child that can't defend itself is wrong. I also know that there are thousands and thousands of couples unable to conceive that would love to raise that child. I let my daughter make her choice and even warned her of the life-changing aspects of parenthood. She chose to have her baby and couldn't imagine life with her now.
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I'm not sure I could abort if I were a female and am glad your daughter didn't abort your grandchild. However, even as you said, it was her choice. I don't think I should impose my views on another when I don't have to raise the child.
 
TimHorton said:
There are already 1000's and 1000's of unwanted children in the foster system. Those couples should be queing up to get ahold of those kids. Killing a child that's defenseless is debate that's been rehashed in here a million times so I'm going to avoid it. But I think even if you reform the adoptions system, including allowing gay couples to adopt, you're still going to have scores and scores of unwated kids. I'm not sure how that benefits anyone.
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problem is, many of those children have special needs and many people do not want to take on a special needs child which is not born from them.
 
Habsy said:
Any budgetary cuts to programs that don't help his base are political points.

He'd batshit crazy.

He's afraid his boys will get knocked up and taken care of.

The program is miss-run (which is true) and should be done away with instead of fixed.

And the real reason is he really wants abortions done so why the need for planned parenthood.
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I'm sure none of the 1.6 million pap smears, breast exams, HPV vaccinations, colposcopies that PP did this year were on Republican women. :sarcasm
 
Re: OT: Canadian Politics

I find it hilarious that out of all the people here, it seems we have about 3/4 teachers on the forum, and 2 of them are kb and Sensible. Wow.
 
TimHorton said:
Take me through this, I'm genuinely interested.
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I'm the same way. I do not believe in murder (war, death penalty, etc). It is all a matter of where you draw the line on 'it' being a life.

My wife was also a prime candidate to be aborted (her mom was 14). So that has somewhat shaped my thinking on it as well (though I held my stance before I even met her).
 
TimHorton said:
There are already 1000's and 1000's of unwanted children in the foster system. Those couples should be queing up to get ahold of those kids. Killing a child that's defenseless is debate that's been rehashed in here a million times so I'm going to avoid it. But I think even if you reform the adoptions system, including allowing gay couples to adopt, you're still going to have scores and scores of unwated kids. I'm not sure how that benefits anyone.
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Example one why i am pro choice. I dont care to define something as a child in order to satisfy the moral concious of someone. I want that child to have the best life possible. Pro choice is about the wanted child, not the moralism of someone else.
 
TimHorton said:
There are already 1000's and 1000's of unwanted children in the foster system. Those couples should be queing up to get ahold of those kids. Killing a child that's defenseless is debate that's been rehashed in here a million times so I'm going to avoid it. But I think even if you reform the adoptions system, including allowing gay couples to adopt, you're still going to have scores and scores of unwated kids. I'm not sure how that benefits anyone.
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I would prefer abortion to infanticide though.
 
Re: OT: Canadian Politics

theREALkoreaboy said:
no it doesnt. he talks about pensions. not about salary, or the fact that we make too much.

his key, key recommendation, and the reason why it has been rejected by mcweasel, is to scrap full day kindergarten and scrap his lower class sizes for primary grades. mcweasel sees those as his two signature education policies, he doesnt want to cut those, so he is coming after US to pay for them. its the equivalent of asking firemen to pay for new firetrucks they receive out of their own salaries.
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You stupid sh1t, that has been my argument the entire time.

I have no issue with competitive salaries, but I shouldn't pay for your retirement, I have mine to worry about.

Holy sh1t you are a moron.
 
My personal feelings on abortion are more in line with HA's. I'm not sure I could ever go through with an abortion myself but the thought of a young woman who is possibly poor, possibly uneducated person feeling like they have no options frightens me A LOT.

But I think people are wrong to equate Planned Parenthood with only abortion in the first place.
 
Re: OT: Canadian Politics

Leafovic said:
I find it hilarious that out of all the people here, it seems we have about 3/4 teachers on the forum, and 2 of them are kb and Sensible. Wow.
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Yeah, frightening.

Although I don't find Sensible nearly as repulsive as KB when we're talking about non-hockey related topics.
 
Habsy said:
I like this chick.
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We are going to have to fight over her. Oh wait.....i already have one at home. To quote dear wife.......the only thing terrorist are good for is sharpening my butcher knife on their thoats. When i first heard it, i was shocked.
 
hockeylover said:
My personal feelings on abortion are more in line with HA's. I'm not sure I could ever go through with an abortion myself but the thought of a young woman who is possibly poor, possibly uneducated person feeling like they have no options frightens me A LOT.

But I think people are wrong to equate Planned Parenthood with only abortion in the first place.
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Some of the PP info comes along with "acceptance of LGBT" propaganda. That is why those who are religious oppose it. No mother wants her daughter to be blind.......but she may not want her to be told that its okay to be lesbian. You may not agre but this does not alter the right of parents to bring up their child based on their beliefs.

As a libertrian, i can not dictate my values on someone else.
 
Re: OT: Canadian Politics

KB in this thread has shown himself...

Misquoting and misrepresenting arguments to try and defend a position that virtually any staunch conservative would simply never take.
 
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