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OT: American Politics

CH1 said:
From Slate

Disruption may have become a badge of honor among tech bros with backward hats and pockets full of other people’s money. But when it comes to the nation’s food security, transit safety, market stability, access to electricity, and preservation of civil rights, disruption for the sake of disruption is dangerous. And these disrupters clearly don’t have the chops to do it well; they lack the patience, the multistep reasoning, the humanity, and the humility necessary to make changes to human systems that are effective, efficient, and lasting.
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Just look at the way Elon admittedly develops cars and rockets. He treats them like software, meant to be manufactured in an incomplete state, blown up, the pieces examined and a new iteration born out of the destruction. Try to build a society based on that ethos though and there will be zero people left by the time you've perfected your product.

Just like the US is about to learn, there is a whole motherfucking pile of value in boring, low event, stability. It is maybe the most important trait for an entity as large as the US government. Stability and predictability has allowed the modern world to revolve around the US for 75 years now. The markets need it, businesses need it, society needs it, US allies need it, etc. Their biggest fuck ups have all be born out of their instability. Vietnam, 9/11, Trump.
 
CH1 said:
I should have added a Tl:dr

Government is not a private business
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I've always hated the "government should be run like a business" bullshit that gets thrown around. My entire life it's been used as cover fire to justify selling public assets to private interests to temporarily balance a budget. I'd love if we operated parts of the government like a good business. Take revenue generating, positive profit public assets and use the profits towards further investment in the "business". The 407, for example, does net revenues of 500-600M per year. Would be a fucking shame if that had been funding regional transit projects for the last 20 years. The LCBO does 2.5 billion a year in net revenue....why would a "business" even consider selling that?
 
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hockeylover said:
You’d think threatening our country would be enough for Canadian Trumpers but mine said “CNN is just brainwashing you, he’s not threatening us” when asked by a family member about it.

Oh and also, the plane crashed bc DEI and that’s why we need to get rid of those departments (She’s disabled).
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So as some of you know I have a young kid. He loves books and we have read several hundred so far. We are hitting a milestone and I've been looking to read a book that has some significance.

I remembered Animal Farm and wanted to give it a read again on my own first just to make sure it is as I remember it to be (i.e. a light read that has historical significance. A kid would see it as a children's book, an adult as an interesting recital of history).

I've been fuming for two days. I do not remember it eliciting this type of emotion when I read it in high school. 2016 and on have really illuminated so much Orwell.
 
zeke said:
lol that's great. i guess you're not letting your kid read it.
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See I'm stuck. I'm having this type of reaction because of all that has happened? And he'd see it just as a children's book like I'd imagine? Or and he won't be able to handle it.

There is also a picture book of it. Much lighter read than chapter books we read but I think there is value of milestone book to be an Orwell one in this day and age.
 
CTheBigPicture said:
So as some of you know I have a young kid. He loves books and we have read several hundred so far. We are hitting a milestone and I've been looking to read a book that has some significance.

I remembered Animal Farm and wanted to give it a read again on my own first just to make sure it is as I remember it to be (i.e. a light read that has historical significance. A kid would see it as a children's book, an adult as an interesting recital of history).

I've been fuming for two days. I do not remember it eliciting this type of emotion when I read it in high school. 2016 and on have really illuminated so much Orwell.
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It's a good book for a youngster because it takes no time at all to read, unlike 1984, which can be a bit of a tough slog.
 
CTheBigPicture said:
See I'm stuck. I'm having this type of reaction because of all that has happened? And he'd see it just as a children's book like I'd imagine? Or and he won't be able to handle it.

There is also a picture book of it. Much lighter read than chapter books we read but I think there is value of milestone book to be an Orwell one in this day and age.
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Another reason why I eat bacon.
 
CTheBigPicture said:
So as some of you know I have a young kid. He loves books and we have read several hundred so far. We are hitting a milestone and I've been looking to read a book that has some significance.

I remembered Animal Farm and wanted to give it a read again on my own first just to make sure it is as I remember it to be (i.e. a light read that has historical significance. A kid would see it as a children's book, an adult as an interesting recital of history).

I've been fuming for two days. I do not remember it eliciting this type of emotion when I read it in high school. 2016 and on have really illuminated so much Orwell.
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Now that’s some solid parenting. Nice work.
 
CTheBigPicture said:
See I'm stuck. I'm having this type of reaction because of all that has happened? And he'd see it just as a children's book like I'd imagine? Or and he won't be able to handle it.

There is also a picture book of it. Much lighter read than chapter books we read but I think there is value of milestone book to be an Orwell one in this day and age.
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His reading and reactions, just like yours, will be colored by his life’s experience. For the most part, kids don’t think on a level to be really disturbed or connect the dots on this. Again, this also depends on how old said kid is. It’s a solid tool to open dialogue about what’s happening around us for sure though.
 
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MindzEye said:
Fly direct. Just sent the wife to Mexico, we've had a no stopover in the US policy for a few years now because the security and immigration control people are mostly jerk offs

We paid more and she flew direct.
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Considering that there’s a non-zero chance these days that she might get sent to a gulag or fucking Guantanamo if she sets foot in the US and runs into the wrong ICE agents…definitely worth the extra money to treat that whole shithole county as a flyover state.
 
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