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Trade Deadline Thread

If it's Stankoven + 2 firsts as being reported; that's not a haul, but considering it was going to be a 3rd or nothing after today, you do what you can
 
As much as I was hoping we would sign Rantanen for the next eight years, I think this is a very good deal for us. (And that is without the two thirds that Emily Kaplan is reporting, which is not what Chris Johnston is reporting in The Athletic.)
 
Rantanen said he wasn't comfortable going long term in Carolina. He felt much better about Dallas. I don't care how much money the Canes have for the summer, Tulsky failed miserably. I won't be surprised if he's fired quickly.
 
Whatever Mikko. That is just player BS for 'I wanted to be in a bigger market' and 'hey, no state income taxes is a sweet deal!' Some players will NEVER sign with a small market team (like ever).

As for who is to blame...a reminder that Eric Tulsky doesn't get to do ANYTHING without a whole lot of other people signing off on it. And another reminder that we were going to have to trade Necas at some point or watch him walk after next season. That was always clear.

Some loud pundits can say the Canes screwed this up all they want to. All that has really happened here is:

* The Canes accelerated the trade of Necas
* The Canes are unlikely to win the Cup this year (which was really what was expected going into this season to begin with)
* The Canes have set themselves up better for next season.

I suspect Dundon is more pissed at Rantanen and his agent than anyone else. I'm sure it doesn't make him happy to have multiple star players in back to back seasons turn down Dundon's money because they 'didn't feel comfortable going long term' here.
 
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Whatever Mikko. That is just player BS for 'I wanted to be in a bigger market' and 'hey, no state income taxes is a sweet deal!' Some players will NEVER sign with a small market team (like ever).

As for who is to blame...a reminder that Eric Tulsky doesn't get to do ANYTHING without a whole lot of other people signing off on it. And another reminder that we were going to have to trade Necas at some point or watch him walk after next season. That was always clear.

Some loud pundits can say the Canes screwed this up all they want to. All that has really happened here is:

* The Canes accelerated the trade of Necas
* The Canes are unlikely to win the Cup this year (which was really what was expected going into this season to begin with)
* The Canes have set themselves up better for next season.

I suspect Dundon is more pissed at Rantanen and his agent than anyone else. I'm sure it doesn't make him happy to have multiple star players in back to back seasons turn down Dundon's money because they 'didn't feel comfortable going long term' here.
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I appreciate you and all you add to this group Cmal...I would enjoy a beer and Canes hockey talk with almost everyone in here but you are my head of the table guest! Always the voice of reason and always sound and insightful thoughts when some of us...me included, get far too emotional in here with the state of affairs of the Canes.
 
Breaking my fast for a quick one here ...

You want to blame somebody, blame the owner. Tulsky is the tactician, Dundon is the big picture guy. My take? Dundon's leverage crap bit him in the ass. He's taken every single advantage of every tiny bit of leverage in favor of the team in every contract negotiation since he's gotten here. That's what got them on bad terms with Necas in the first place, dragged out what should have been a simple extension with Jarvis, and what cost them that stupid offer sheet mess with Aho when the team made it plain that they were going to go to the mat to get the best possible deal. It also cost him with Guentzel last summer, when he spent weeks hammering on a low valuation thinking he could he could play chicken with the deadline ... only to get so close to the deadline that the player figured he'd be better off making his own deal with somebody more amenable. And now he got played by Rantanen and his agent, a fact that will have the agent community buying each other beers tonight for sure. The hard earned lesson (hopefully) is that there's a certain class of player in the NHL that renders "team control" fairly meaningless. Your first team all league guys with proven playoff track records? They're going to get too much term and too much money eventually, no matter your owner's iron will. Dundon is now 0 for 2 on those guys. Maybe figure it out before you dip your toes in that pool again.

Tulsky saved the corporate bacon by making sure he got real value out of this mess but in the short term we're back to square one on a season that didn't have to be this futile. Tulsky was the one making noises about own-rentals and seeing how it would play out in the post season as recently as Sunday. That decision to throw all that measured thinking out the window on deadline eve? That's GOT to be on Dundon. I'm interested to see if he'll own it or not.

And don't forget. For that absolute sham of an "effort" he was willing to put his name on in the Boston game, Rantanen can suck it forever. At least to that point he appeared to be trying, and then he took a game check for whatever that was. Eff off and don't bother taking a uniform as a keep-sake.
 
IMO the Canes did pretty good overall. Basically, traded Necas and a 2nd for Stankoven, two 1sts and two 3rds.

They took a shot on Rantanen and he didn't play well... and that likely led to him not being happy and not wanting to sign. That's not Tulsky's fault.

I'd be pretty happy that he fixed the "mistake" rather than compounding it.
 
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