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well that idealism is nice and all. it works very well when everyone actually fundamentally respects democracy and we're discussing mere policy differences.

but we're in a world right now where half of the political spectrum is actively undermining democracy itself, amd quite literally rooting for authoratarianism.

the battle isn't about policy differences, it's about whether we should keep a system where those policy differences can even be discussed any more.
 
zeke said:
well that idealism is nice and all. it works very well when everyone actually fundamentally respects democracy and we're discussing mere policy differences.

but we're in a world right now where half of the political spectrum is actively undermining democracy itself, amd quite literally rooting for authoratarianism.

the battle isn't about policy differences, it's about whether we should keep a system where those policy differences can even be discussed any more.
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sure, but recent polls suggest Canadians, for the most part, get that, and have rallied around the Libs as a result, no?
 
lecoqsportif said:
JT really squeezed them on pot legislation, dental/child care and climate change. They had very little oxygen to draw upon.
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Thus is the problem with being only kind of progressive and forgetting your organized labour roots.

There is a big ass world of progressive ideas out there that are popular with Canadians that they don't really talk about. They fall into the parliamentarian trap imo where they spend more time complaining about who is in power than in crafting a vision for the country and speaking to the public about it. The NDP let the Liberals off the hook by dragging them into the progressive policies the Liberals were comfortable with, but not dragging them where they were way less comfortable (universal post secondary, UBI, housing as a human right, etc, etc)
 
zeke said:
hopefully.

but we're still in a situation where the anti-democracy side has entirely consolidated all of their votes into one party, while the other side is splitting theirs.
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not completely. PPC will siphon a few (or more?) votes. but fundamentally I do understand what you're saying - Lib + NDP > Con (in numbers), but the voting and results don't always reflect that
 
MindzEye said:
Liberals have passed CPC in BC for projected seat count and are into what I'd call a solid majority.

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You can thank the provincial BC Cons party (formerly the provincial BC Liberal party). John Rustad didn't move quicky enough to remove the far right wing whackjobs who are MAGA wannabees in his party. Back when the BC Cons ran under the Liberal banner, a number of their campaign workers helped out with the NDP candidates in Federal elections). I *think* a number of these people chose not to join the BC Cons when they made the party name change. The "Cons" brand was damaged (at least in the short-term/currently) here as a result imho.
 
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