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2019 Offseason Thread

I always consider it because drafts are the funnest, but always decide against it.

Watching a three-team dispersal draft going down tonight for one of other leagues and it's been funnn.
 
UWHabs said:
I don't think we need to rush into a decision here. In some ways, 18 protected is actually quite a lot, so I would guess that these 3 new teams will be fairly bad, even if they some decent players with the 19th best player from a few of our teams. But I do think if we have 3 new owners who want to come in, I'd welcome them in, so figuring out some way to handle that would be nice.
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There are also 2 complete teams in the pool too.

Your point is right though... 3 teams picking from 2 teams plus peoples' 19th-25th best MLBers and 23-30th best prospects isn't great.
 
Was just taking a quick look at the two abandoned teams' future draft picks...and yuck.

Both teams traded their firsts in 2021 and 2022.

Is this going to be another case where we give those picks back and give the teams who have acquired them compensation?
 
We should.....we should also try to figure out a way to prevent this from happening in the future. (Like maybe can't trade 1sts two years away, without paying the league fee ahead of time for that season?..or something of that ilk)

I think many of us knew this was coming when Bad News traded away his future firsts for instance.
 
I have some draft pick issues there...in my "build from scratch" mode, I kinda targeted some of the bad teams (including Bears & Stubby both years) to look for future important draft picks when dealing some of my more valuable names. I guess I wouldn't mind the possibility of giving the replacement owners lower compensation, but I'd hate to lose the (potential) value of those picks.

Selfish, I know! But it was a big part of my strategy in a lot of moves.
 
Montana said:
We should.....we should also try to figure out a way to prevent this from happening in the future. (Like maybe can't trade 1sts two years away, without paying the league fee ahead of time for that season?..or something of that ilk)

I think many of us knew this was coming when Bad News traded away his future firsts for instance.
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Well, you have to toss in a couple 1st round picks with Judge in order to get a stud SS in Didi Gregorious. Can’t blame a guy for that.
 
Iceman said:
I have some draft pick issues there...in my "build from scratch" mode, I kinda targeted some of the bad teams (including Bears & Stubby both years) to look for future important draft picks when dealing some of my more valuable names. I guess I wouldn't mind the possibility of giving the replacement owners lower compensation, but I'd hate to lose the (potential) value of those picks.

Selfish, I know! But it was a big part of my strategy in a lot of moves.
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Thing is though...those teams are no longer part of the league so you don't own their picks anymore. *You'd* be the one getting compensation, not them.

Last time, what we did is, if you owned a pick of one of those teams, you'd get the 11th pick of that round.
 
Iceman said:
I have some draft pick issues there...in my "build from scratch" mode, I kinda targeted some of the bad teams (including Bears & Stubby both years) to look for future important draft picks when dealing some of my more valuable names. I guess I wouldn't mind the possibility of giving the replacement owners lower compensation, but I'd hate to lose the (potential) value of those picks.

Selfish, I know! But it was a big part of my strategy in a lot of moves.
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Unfortunately that's always a risk with trading for future 1sts. Sometimes that team gets good... or disappears.
 
hairnova said:
Thing is though...those teams are no longer part of the league so you don't own their picks anymore. *You'd* be the one getting compensation, not them.

Last time, what we did is, if you owned a pick of one of those teams, you'd get the 11th pick of that round.
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Well that's not how it works. You give up an asset for a pick, the draft pick is yours wherever it falls. Completely undermines the league if we take picks from managers that gave up assets for them. Don't have an issue giving picks back to the new managers in the middle of the round, but yeah we can't screw over current managers that traded for picks in good faith.
 
hairnova said:
Thing is though...those teams are no longer part of the league so you don't own their picks anymore. *You'd* be the one getting compensation, not them.

Last time, what we did is, if you owned a pick of one of those teams, you'd get the 11th pick of that round.
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I get that I'm totally biased here since I'm the only one really affected. But I agree with Deckie. If the teams are still in the league (albeit with new owners), why would the picks disappear from me and go back to them?
 
Deckie007 said:
Well that's not how it works. You give up an asset for a pick, the draft pick is yours wherever it falls. Completely undermines the league if we take picks from managers that gave up assets for them. Don't have an issue giving picks back to the new managers in the middle of the round, but yeah we can't screw over current managers that traded for picks in good faith.
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How do you use a pick of a team that doesn't exist?
 
Well I guess we can do it whichever way the league wants but what I said is exactly how we did it last time.
 
Habspatrol said:
How do you use a pick of a team that doesn't exist?
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Sorry if I sound defensive...I recognize it, but I feel like I shouldn't lose major assets over this. The teams do exist...it's not like we're contracting them. There are still 18 teams in here, and maybe a 19th one coming
 
Habspatrol said:
How do you use a pick of a team that doesn't exist?
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lol, what is this bankruptcy? The picks still exist and so do the teams. There's still an order of finish from last year. It's not Iceman or whoever's fault that Stubby's and BNB's owners abandoned their teams.
 
Iceman said:
I get that I'm totally biased here since I'm the only one really affected. But I agree with Deckie. If the teams are still in the league (albeit with new owners), why would the picks disappear from me and go back to them?
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Dispersal draft.

If the teams were just assumed by a new owner, then the picks would still exists.
 
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