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2024-25 Canes Miscellaneous Thread

andyt said:
My last word on he who will not be named. This piece of excrement knew last week that he wasn’t re-signing here but he and his scumbag agent drew everything out to the last minute so the Canes couldn’t make any other deals with what they got back from the Stars. F him and F Andy Scott.


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This ties into the Athletic article from a couple weeks ago that listed Dundon and the Canes as one of the most hated owners/orgs in the agent survey…so was Andy Scott thinking he was the hero with the revenge ploy with this…POS, both player and agent.
 
He's made plenty of great plays this season, but the problem is, his fuck-ups have been disastrous. Seemingly more-so this season than in the past.
 
Pucking Lamplighter said:
Are the Hurricanes better with Orlov sitting? Given his number of brain farts and questionable effort, I wonder if Orlov out is a good thing?
Sure seems like it.

Jim
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It depends on how his minutes are allocated. Orlov plays nearly 20 minutes per game, 17:41 at even strength, 2nd on the team behind Slavin, and 1:59 on the PK. Morrow played 12:27 last night, all at even strength. Can he play more? Of course, he’s almost definitely playing more minutes with the Wolves. But Orlov/Chatfield is the 2nd PK unit. Ghost played a 37 second shift on the PK in the 2nd period when Chatty was in the box. He's played 6 minutes on the PK total this season. Walker played 1:13 on the PK, he averages about 40 seconds per game.

Morrow is a righty, so with him in and Orlov out, either Walker or Chatty have to play their off side. He played with both last night and it worked out OK.
 
On the Canes Corner podcast after the Jets game, Gold played a snippet of his pregame conversation with RBA. In it, RBA said they knew early that Rantanen had no intention of staying, there were 4 teams he wanted to play for and the Canes weren’t one of them. So did Andy Scott lead Tulsky to believe there wasn’t a magical list and he’d love to play here? Or did Tulsky not ask? I believe this falls on Andy Scott. Forward to 13:40


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Practice lines today. Svech and Andersen are missing. Svech was injured yesterday and left the ice holding his arm. His last shift was onky 20 seconds and ended with 7:42 left. It looks like KK and Aho switched wings and Jost is a placeholder for Svech. Also interesting that Orlov is rotating with Ghost and not Morrow. Andersen usually doesn’t practice the day after a game.

Hall-Aho-Blake
Jost-Kotkaniemi-Stankoven
Martinook-Staal-Jarvis
Robinson-Jankowski-Roslovic

Slavin-Burns
Gostisbehere/Orlov-Chatfield
Walker-Morrow

Kochetkov
 
andyt said:
On the Canes Corner podcast after the Jets game, Gold played a snippet of his pregame conversation with RBA. In it, RBA said they knew early that Rantanen had no intention of staying, there were 4 teams he wanted to play for and the Canes weren’t one of them. So did Andy Scott lead Tulsky to believe there wasn’t a magical list and he’d love to play here? Or did Tulsky not ask? I believe this falls on Andy Scott. Forward to 13:40


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I believe that Friedman may have answered that question in the podcast that was linked to earlier in this thread. As Friedman understands the situation, the Avs gave the Hurricanes permission to speak with Rantanen's people. Thinking that this was just a bluff by the Avs, Andy Scott blew smoke up Carolina's ass making it sound like Rantanen was interested in playing in Raleigh.
 
NoMich said:
I believe that Friedman may have answered that question in the podcast that was linked to earlier in this thread. As Friedman understands the situation, the Avs gave the Hurricanes permission to speak with Rantanen's people. Thinking that this was just a bluff by the Avs, Andy Scott blew smoke up Carolina's ass making it sound like Rantanen was interested in playing in Raleigh.
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Correct. If you believe Elliott Friedman's take, Rantanen's agent screwed the Canes by stating to both the Avs and Canes that Rantanen would be willing to consider signing an extension with the Canes.

IF THIS TAKE IS TRUE (we probably won't ever know for sure), then Andy Scott flat out lied to both the Avs and Canes, thinking that Colorado was just trying to leverage a potential trade for a better negotiating position. When it turned out the Avs were not bluffing, Scott and Rantanen were caught off guard, having Rantanen now traded to a team that Rantanen really had zero interest in, despite the fact that his agent said that he would be interested in signing long term with the Canes.

So the agent lies to all parties and gets his client traded to the Canes, where Rantanen doesn't want to be at all. That is crappy. But what makes that all more crappy is that Rantanen mopes around for 13 games like a spoiled brat, half assing his play in every situation. So no only did the Canes get a player who didn't want to be here and never would for a second really consider signing here, we got a disinterested player who obviously wasn't giving 100% out there most of the time (heck even 50% would be generous).

Booing Rantanen when he plays his next game in Raleigh hardly seems like enough. And Andy Scott? The Canes might want to consider never doing business with any of his clients if they can avoid it.
 
andyt said:
On the Canes Corner podcast after the Jets game, Gold played a snippet of his pregame conversation with RBA. In it, RBA said they knew early that Rantanen had no intention of staying, there were 4 teams he wanted to play for and the Canes weren’t one of them. So did Andy Scott lead Tulsky to believe there wasn’t a magical list and he’d love to play here? Or did Tulsky not ask? I believe this falls on Andy Scott. Forward to 13:40


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Wow. Rod with the truth bomb.
 
cmaleski2 said:
Booing Rantanen when he plays his next game in Raleigh hardly seems like enough. And Andy Scott? The Canes might want to consider never doing business with any of his clients if they can avoid it.
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Andy Scott doesn’t represent any current Canes, nor does Octagon Athlete Representation. They represent 93 NHL players, mostly between Scott, Ben Hankinson (Guentzel’s agent) and Allan Walsh. Players that might be of interest to the Canes that they represent include Brock Boeser, Brock Nelson (both Hankinson), Jacob Chychrun (Scott), Radek Faksa, Jonathan Drouin and Canes legend Martin Frk (Walsh).
 
I would love to be able to ask Jordan Staal or Jordan Martinook, off the record, if they felt that Mikko Rantanen gave his all on the ice during his 13 game tenure here.
 
I think booing Rantanen is almost required. Unintentionally or not, he basically insulted the team and our fair city - and deserves the scorn we fans should give him. But I’m not sure he purposely played half-assed - even though he wasn’t good - I don’t see how that helps him. I lean toward Friedman’s analysis.

But seeing Rantanen’s bullseye in the urinals in the men’s room last night was near perfect.
 
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