2024 Draft
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GGpX
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And just as I start reading up on Kyle Dubas, well well well, what do you know? He got in scouting for the Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds because he had ties to the organization.
You don't say.
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
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Exactly. Stop believing that rich people get rich because they're smart. They get rich usually by already being rich and for their willingness to act completely unethical and ruthless while stomping on whoever is in their path. The world is lousy with smart poor people. Trump is a fucking moron and he got to be President.
Just remember the iron rule: there's no such thing as a self-made billionaire.
As for pro hockey, it's always been an old boys club and it still is. You think JF Houle got to be coach of the Rocket because he's good at coaching?
Bezos didn't have $$ as a child. Gates came from a family like yours. Andrew Carnegie and Cornelius Vanderbilt came from nothing as did Walt Disney
Marinaro is pathetic
LesCanadiens
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Boisvert has hit on some calls and missed on others just like anyone else. E.G. He thought Conner Geekie was one of the best, if not the best in 2022.
As far as this year goes, I'm still very high on Berkly Catton. And no, he's not related to me, lol. I'm even more high on him now that we know he's been playing with a nagging hip issue all year. I can't even begin to imagine how many points he would've scored if healthy. Here is a great overall assessment of this, IMO, future NHL star.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xuGJvFZ4GI
As far as this year goes, I'm still very high on Berkly Catton. And no, he's not related to me, lol. I'm even more high on him now that we know he's been playing with a nagging hip issue all year. I can't even begin to imagine how many points he would've scored if healthy. Here is a great overall assessment of this, IMO, future NHL star.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xuGJvFZ4GI
He’d fit in great on a big, heavy team like VGK. Not so much on ours, which is already small up front. It’s not a good fit here, or rather, there will be better fits available for us when we draft.
you must have missed the memo on X and Social Media, you can win a Cup with 18 5'9 players as long as they are skilled,,,
LesCanadiens
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These are the linemates he scored 116 points with. both midgets. An average of 1.71PPG. Which is 3rd overall in the last 20 years of WHL draft eligible seasons, behind only C. Bedard and S. Reinhart.
He doesn't "need" big linemates. He's not afraid of traffic and is almost impossible to hit. He ALWAYS attacks the slot. And, he's played on a terrible team with zero star talent outside himself.
Our opinions differ for sure, and let's revisit this convo in a few years. Will be interesting to see. I'd say, put him with Roy and Dach or Dach and Newhook, and watch him not only become a cinch for PPG, but watch him make those 2 much better players. This is what Benson is doing this year according to Sabres fans. And Catton is a far superior player. And I loved and still love Benson. He was my choice for the Habs last year after Michkov.
He doesn't "need" big linemates. He's not afraid of traffic and is almost impossible to hit. He ALWAYS attacks the slot. And, he's played on a terrible team with zero star talent outside himself.
Our opinions differ for sure, and let's revisit this convo in a few years. Will be interesting to see. I'd say, put him with Roy and Dach or Dach and Newhook, and watch him not only become a cinch for PPG, but watch him make those 2 much better players. This is what Benson is doing this year according to Sabres fans. And Catton is a far superior player. And I loved and still love Benson. He was my choice for the Habs last year after Michkov.
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Not when you have many on your top 9
Vegas has Marchy but rest of team is big
LesCanadiens
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Tampa did just fine without huge forwards. Don't get me wrong, I totally understand the benefits of having big players. But you don't bite off your nose to spite your face and go size over elite skill. Haven't we learned our lesson from picking guys like Kotkaniemi, Mcarron, Poehling, Chouinard, Jason Ward etc?
GrandWazoo
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I don't think we're that small in our core players going forward, and we have a huge need for skilled players. And Catton isn't that small at 5'11, but he's a bit of a tooth pick right now at 170lbs, he'll probably mature out in the Kadri body mold. I'd take the bigger similarly skilled player, but I'd take the much more skilled player over a bigger alternative.
lecoqsportif
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Rosters aren’t fixed in stone and can be adjusted. So if we want skill with a smaller frame that’s totally fine, but other moves down the road might be necessary.
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Bill Gates was born into wealth. His father was a partner in a law firm and his mother was on the board of directors for a bank. My dad was in sales and my mom was an RN who got married in 1961 and didn't buy their first house until 1974. The only reason we were even a 2 car family was because my dad's sales gig included a company car. So no, not a family like mine at all.
Bezos' parents may not have been Gates rich but they were rich enough to send Master Jeffrey to Princeton and to give him $300K to help him start Amazon. If my folks had $300K lying around they'd have had a pit bull guarding it. I couldn't afford to go to the small Ivy college in Connecticut that I wanted to attend. Even going to Carleton journalism school would have broken the bank for me. Instead I had to go to raggedy-ass Concordia University with it's $400/year tuition and had to work a part time job to pay the rent. Again, not a family like mine.
The world in which Carnegie, Vanderbilt and Disney came of age may as well be a different planet. Nobody goes from rags to riches anymore. The system is specifically designed to prevent it. And we only have to look at the living heirs to those dynasties to know this is true. Andrew Carnegie and Cornelius Vanderbilt were super wealthy during the Gilded Age but their descendants today are far from it. They all have to work for a living because their family fortunes were pissed away over the generations.
And don't even get me started on Elon. He's the classic example of a guy born on third base with Ty Cobb in the on-deck circle trying to convince people that he hit a triple.
Strawman argument. No one is advocating picking bigger, unskilled players instead of Catton. Lindstrom, Eiserman and Iginla are bigger than Catton, but are highly skilled. Talented bigger trumps talented smaller player unless we’re talking about Connor Bedrard type, but we’re not re: Catton.
See my post directly above.
lecoqsportif
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Yeah, there’s no interest in hur dur shit at all.
If interviews suggest Lindstrom is an uncoachable hammerhead like Anderson, DO NOT DRAFT.
If interviews suggest Lindstrom is an uncoachable hammerhead like Anderson, DO NOT DRAFT.
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I heard on one of the podcasts that the Habs are something like the 6th biggest team in the league. Is that real?
LesCanadiens
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Well, with LIndstrom we have a bigger issue now (no pun intended). And that is the fact he only played 32 games this year. There is no way we take a chance on him especially with our injury history. Besides that though, I personally don't see translatable "skill" with him. And I watched him this year. And especially in the playoffs. He played mean and tough when he wanted vs smaller players. But became very shy anytime Fabrizi was near him. I like this kid. I just don't see the upside you and others do. And a bad back enough to miss most of the season seals the deal. I do like Eiserman though, I just feel Catton is a far more well rounded player and clearly higher skilled overall. If he didn't have all the personal issues, I also like Connelly. Very, very skilled. 6'1", super fast skater and eilte hands, vision, playmaking and hockey IQ.