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2025-2026 Off Season Thread - The Rehappening

MyNameIsJonas said:
So this can be both fair and unfair IMO

Most of the stink around Berube is positive and he just got here, and if you are going to commit to his very boring shitty brand, you might as well give him the guys required to excel in it.

Or just pull the plug on him and start over with him as a one and done? I dunno.

The fuck up was allowing Shanahan to fire Dubas and allow Tre to hire Berube.

Now, if Shanahan goes the new guy enters a situation with a GM/coach that have done mostly positive things and he needs to wait at least a year to bring in his own things. Which is probably why Tre is just promoted.

Ass backwards.

Shanahan, Dubas, Keefe should have all went at once.
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no argument here, I've wanted Shanny gone for awhile. he is the head of the octopus, as they say.
 
MindzEye said:
Game management is a thing and it's not going away. take more penalties and you'll draw more penalties. the numbers actually support that conclusion
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Literally the dumbest strategy ever if it means embracing awful and unnecessary penalties taken at the worst time every time by this guy.
 
MyNameIsJonas said:
2 things can be true

Marner can be scapegoated because its very easy to do, and the team is assuredly worse with whoever replaces him

Marner is soft and needs to go
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I keep asking this, because it's actually important: Worse when?

We have a big enough sample now of who Mitch Marner is in the playoffs that if the answer to my question is "in the playoffs", well...fucking no.

Yes, we're not going to find a 90-100 point 2 way winger to replace him. But we absolutely might find a 70 point 2 way winger, and then use the 6-7 million less that guy is going to cost to upgrade 2-3 other positions so that on aggregate, the team is better or even much better when it actually matters.
 
MindzEye said:
I keep asking this, because it's actually important. Worse when?

We have a big enough sample now of who Mitch Marner is in the playoffs that is the answer to my question is "in the playoffs", well...fucking no.

Yes, we're not going to find a 90-100 point 2 way winger to replace him. But we absolutely might find a 70 point 2 way winger, and then use the 6-7 million less that guy is going to cost to upgrade 2-3 other positions so that on aggregate, the team is better or even much better when it actually matters.
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I would love it to be true that Mitch is the one who is ruining Matthews in the playoffs.

That might be the most convincing argument/gamble for me to let him go for nothing.
 
MindzEye said:
I keep asking this, because it's actually important: Worse when?

We have a big enough sample now of who Mitch Marner is in the playoffs that if the answer to my question is "in the playoffs", well...fucking no.

Yes, we're not going to find a 90-100 point 2 way winger to replace him. But we absolutely might find a 70 point 2 way winger, and then use the 6-7 million less that guy is going to cost to upgrade 2-3 other positions so that on aggregate, the team is better or even much better when it actually matters.
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Regular season worse. Ideally playoff better.

His replacement will no doubt be less skilled, but perhaps not as much of a bitch in the postseason.

Who is this 70 pt winger you see as a candidate in FA?
 
zeke said:
I would love it to be true that Mitch is the one who is ruining Matthews in the playoffs.

That might be the most convincing argument/gamble for me to let him go for nothing.
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Every other metric Matthews touches in the playoff turns to gold except for point production. We've also seen Auston play without Mitch in the regular season for extended stretches, often with linemates you wouldn't think he would excel with....and it doesn't matter, he beasts.

It also makes intuitive sense that the elite 2 way centre isn't being carried by a winger.
 
I really think that the "passengers" comment was directed at Willy. I think that both Matthews and marner don't like him, especially after the Amazon show and the stop crying.
When marner yelled "wake the fuck up" I bet it was to Willy.

Matthews and marner have learned way too much from Thornton and Marleau. Willy doesn't like that shit.

I hope that with marner gone Willy and Mathews can bury the hatchet and get to work.

I still think that that passengers comment was stupid for the captain to say. Willy knows those two are soft together.
 
MindzEye said:
Yes, we're not going to find a 90-100 point 2 way winger to replace him. But we absolutely might find a 70 point 2 way winger, and then use the 6-7 million less that guy is going to cost to upgrade 2-3 other positions so that on aggregate, the team is better or even much better when it actually matters.
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Scott Hatterberg and Jeremy Giambi

Shanny's negligence has put us in a terrible position. Letting a guy like Marner go for nothing sucks.

But how the hell do you justify paying him $14 mill based on his playoff performance and the teams cap structure. What other option do they have?
 
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