I would not make him our highest paid defenseman. He's currently a 3rd pairing defenseman who MAY play himself into a 2nd pairing role....but I am not convinced. I would not pay him more than 7.0 - 7.5 and I dont even know if he is currently worth even that. That's not me hating on the kid, but I do not see him getting paid more than Slavin, Miller, Chatfield, etc...for what he brings/brought to the tableI would give Nikishin $8.5 million AAV for 5 seasons. That isn't an unreasonable ask to me.
I would not make him our highest paid defenseman. He's currently a 3rd pairing defenseman who MAY play himself into a 2nd pairing role....but I am not convinced. I would not pay him more than 7.0 - 7.5 and I dont even know if he is currently worth even that. That's not me hating on the kid, but I do not see him getting paid more than Slavin, Miller, Chatfield, etc...for what he brings/brought to the table
OK, let me clarify my only point....HE ISNT WORTH (you didnt say it, but I will) 8.5M even with CAP increases....whether Slavin plays for Free or 100 Mill. He's not worth more than Miller or Chatty or even Ghost IMO. But, if teams want to pay premium for "potential" then go for it and get stuck with him for 5 years on a not friendly dealThat's a difficult argument to make when we're either in the middle of a cap increase or getting close to one. When a team's best player signs a long-term, team-friendly contract a few seasons before even knowing of a cap increase, it's almost impossible to justify not paying someone else more per season when the cap increase does hit. It's not Nikishin's fault that Jaccob Slavin signed the contract that he did.
Adding: whether Nikishin is actually worth $8.5 million per season is completely beside the point with what I'm saying.
With the Canes current payroll situation, that mindset would exclude bringing in ANY new players. And Nikishin slots into the top paiir on about half the teams in this league. People who keep calling him a 3rd pairing D man are just trying to belittle him.I would not make him our highest paid defenseman. He's currently a 3rd pairing defenseman who MAY play himself into a 2nd pairing role....but I am not convinced. I would not pay him more than 7.0 - 7.5 and I dont even know if he is currently worth even that. That's not me hating on the kid, but I do not see him getting paid more than Slavin, Miller, Chatfield, etc...for what he brings/brought to the table
Ok. I guess we are watching different players. I have a different opinion of him and it’s not belittling…it’s what I’ve seen with my own eyes. He’s a decent player but he’s not the next coming. He has a lot of holes and had to be sheltered all season. It is what it is. Doesn’t mean I don’t like him or think hes trash I just don’t think he’s worth 8.5 to 9 mil a year.With the Canes current payroll situation, that mindset would exclude bringing in ANY new players. And Nikishin slots into the top paiir on about half the teams in this league. People who keep calling him a 3rd pairing D man are just trying to belittle him.
A good lively conversation in here today on Boom, I actually could find myself living on both sides of the fence on this one…I find this topic currently from where the market sits as perplexing for both the player and team. To CMal’s point $8.5 m per is not really that far off if you look at what this summer has done to newly signed deals. To Kevin’s point, Boom hasn’t really earned $8.5 million per with his body of work and play to date. If Nikishin follows the path most of us expect him to, I say he is a young, talented top four defender in this league for the next 8-10 years, so that’s probably worth $8-$8.5 m right now and the next year or two based on the market. It’s hard to make the argument that he doesn’t deserve more than Slavin or Miller because both of those contracts already seem like underpriced steals of a deal for the Canes and both of those guys are probably $10 million dollar and up AAV guys if they are signed today. Give him $8m x 5, a nice $40 million even number and call it a day and hope like hell he is a fixture on the blue line for years to come!
I didn't know you sheltered people by putting them on the PK. Good to know.Ok. I guess we are watching different players. I have a different opinion of him and it’s not belittling…it’s what I’ve seen with my own eyes. He’s a decent player but he’s not the next coming. He has a lot of holes and had to be sheltered all season. It is what it is. Doesn’t mean I don’t like him or think hes trash I just don’t think he’s worth 8.5 to 9 mil a year.