GGpX
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Re: Around The League: 2013 - 2014 Season
Yup. Closing your eyes and saying "nononono!" to 'em will just leave you behind.
Yup. Closing your eyes and saying "nononono!" to 'em will just leave you behind.
Around The League: 2016-17 Playoffs
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CH1
The Artist Formerly Known as chiggins.
Re: Around The League: 2013 - 2014 Season
Did advanced stats compel the Hawks to give Crawford $6M?
The case for advanced stats isn't that compelling if a team stacked with Toews, Kane, Keith, Hossa, etc somehow manages to win the Cup. BFD. Let's see a team with less obvious talent succeed before we celebrate.
I was an early Bill James disciple, ran the Expos chapter of his Project Scoresheet initiative and I love stuff like Moneyball but what I don't like is all the hype. Ie. In Moneyball, they spend 90% of the time discussing slow white guys who get on base but barely mention the A's had 3 excellent top of the rotation starters in Hudson, Mulder and Zito.
Gotta be careful not to replace one type of BS with another.
Did advanced stats compel the Hawks to give Crawford $6M?
The case for advanced stats isn't that compelling if a team stacked with Toews, Kane, Keith, Hossa, etc somehow manages to win the Cup. BFD. Let's see a team with less obvious talent succeed before we celebrate.
I was an early Bill James disciple, ran the Expos chapter of his Project Scoresheet initiative and I love stuff like Moneyball but what I don't like is all the hype. Ie. In Moneyball, they spend 90% of the time discussing slow white guys who get on base but barely mention the A's had 3 excellent top of the rotation starters in Hudson, Mulder and Zito.
Gotta be careful not to replace one type of BS with another.
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True Ch.
I never agreed with the walks are the be all end all either.
True Ch.
I never agreed with the walks are the be all end all either.
CH1
The Artist Formerly Known as chiggins.
Re: Around The League: 2013 - 2014 Season
You have to understand that walks essentially were once deemed to have no positive value from a hitter's perspective (as in almost nobody kept track of them). Walks were seen by many as a pitcher's mistake. (not everyone mind you, GM Branch Rickey was always a fan)
You have to give people credit for correcting that obvious mistake.
You have to understand that walks essentially were once deemed to have no positive value from a hitter's perspective (as in almost nobody kept track of them). Walks were seen by many as a pitcher's mistake. (not everyone mind you, GM Branch Rickey was always a fan)
You have to give people credit for correcting that obvious mistake.
BKerr
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Re: Around The League: 2013 - 2014 Season
No one said that they are the only thing to look at. You have to do some scouting too.
For the Hawks though, do advanced stats help when deciding to trade Brian Campbell or Marian Hossa when you need to clear some space?
Do advanced stats help them fill out their bottom lines when they had to rebuild around that core following the 2010 purge for cap reasons?
Have they gotten advanced stats to help them in drafting? They draft pretty well too.....
Are they the be all and end all? Of course not.
But they are certainly useful and not as useless as some have said or implied.
No one said that they are the only thing to look at. You have to do some scouting too.
For the Hawks though, do advanced stats help when deciding to trade Brian Campbell or Marian Hossa when you need to clear some space?
Do advanced stats help them fill out their bottom lines when they had to rebuild around that core following the 2010 purge for cap reasons?
Have they gotten advanced stats to help them in drafting? They draft pretty well too.....
Are they the be all and end all? Of course not.
But they are certainly useful and not as useless as some have said or implied.
CH1
The Artist Formerly Known as chiggins.
Re: Around The League: 2013 - 2014 Season
Another coach we allegedly let slip away was canned today. Kirk Muller fired.
Another coach we allegedly let slip away was canned today. Kirk Muller fired.
Re: Around The League: 2013 - 2014 Season
Can he be in Montreal by Tuesday?
Can he be in Montreal by Tuesday?
Re: Around The League: 2013 - 2014 Season
Didfn't he work with Therrien? Or was it Carbo that worked with Therrien
Didfn't he work with Therrien? Or was it Carbo that worked with Therrien
Habs-25
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WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
I will get banned again soon, worry not.
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
I will get banned again soon, worry not.
Re: Around The League: 2013 - 2014 Season
RIP Ross Lonsberry, former Bruin, King, Penguin and (most notably) Broad Street Bully-era Flyer, dead at 67 from cancer.
RIP Ross Lonsberry, former Bruin, King, Penguin and (most notably) Broad Street Bully-era Flyer, dead at 67 from cancer.
Re: Around The League: 2013 - 2014 Season
When he played for the Flyers wasn't he one of their handful of pussies along with Leach, McLeish and Orest Kindrachuk?
When he played for the Flyers wasn't he one of their handful of pussies along with Leach, McLeish and Orest Kindrachuk?
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
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Re: Around The League: 2013 - 2014 Season
He wasn't much of a brawler. McLeish and Kindrachuck fought more than him. Gary Dornhoeffer, Simon Nolet and Bill Clement were pretty much conscientious objectors when it came to the rough stuff.
Dave "The Hammer" Schultz, Andre "Moose" Dupont, Bob "Mad Dog" Kelly and Don "No Nickname" Saleski were the real core of the Bullies. Bobby Clarke, Bill Barber, Ed Van Impe, Joe and Jim Watson and Mel Bridgeman were like mob associates. They could afford to act tough because they were protected.
He wasn't much of a brawler. McLeish and Kindrachuck fought more than him. Gary Dornhoeffer, Simon Nolet and Bill Clement were pretty much conscientious objectors when it came to the rough stuff.
Dave "The Hammer" Schultz, Andre "Moose" Dupont, Bob "Mad Dog" Kelly and Don "No Nickname" Saleski were the real core of the Bullies. Bobby Clarke, Bill Barber, Ed Van Impe, Joe and Jim Watson and Mel Bridgeman were like mob associates. They could afford to act tough because they were protected.
