MyNameIsJonas
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The NHL should get in touch with the Catholic Church and see how to get away with just reassigning or sick leaving these motherfuckers
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MindzEye
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Probably not gear. But painkillers, anti inflammatory gel, etc, etc...yeah, thats where my money is.
LeafOfFaith
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Waiting for the story of Brian Burke walking around with his pants at his ankles because it looks cool to seem like you have no time to get ready for work.
CH1
The Artist Formerly Known as chiggins.
more like he was great despite being wasted all the time...perhaps the Leafs shouldn’t have hit the post twice a game
hockeylover
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hockeylover
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I'm sure douchebags whining about lefty mob and cancel culture will be all over this one.
Hoss
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This trope has been taken over in the politics world.... the demasculinization of men.
Joe Rogan being the new king of red meat eating, beer drinking men who punch each other in the nuts and don't even have any feelings.
They will be the first to say that Hockey has gone soft. So stupid.
And if you use the words Toxic Masculinity, it just further plugs their ears and makes them rage even more.
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
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It isn't Price, it's Habs management. All they do is lie.
And if you read Price's statement closely, you'll note that he says "substance use", not "substance abuse". This distinction should not be glossed over because the two words imply very different things. Abuse would point toward the individual deciding to take drugs on his own as he saw fit. Use implies that these drugs were given to him and that he was instructed to take them.
To me, this just further proves what Robin Lehner was saying a couple of weeks ago. That teams throw pills at players without regard to their health. They only care about the player being able to suit up for the next game. And it's my belief that the reason why the Habs allowed people to think that Price's entry into the player assistance program was related to mental health is so that no pointed questions would be asked about the type of drugs involved and, more importantly, where he got them and who directed him to take them. They would much rather have this story be about Price as an individual having personal issues, the nature of which team management had no prior knowledge. The last thing they want is for people to start asking about how the team's medical staff does their job or how they could allow a player taking prescribed drugs to fall into addiction. Simply put, if Price got addicted to pain killers that team doctors prescribed to him in order to keep him fit to play during the postseason then they are negligent, legally and ethically.
I'm sure that when he was first given these drugs, the prevailing thought was that he wouldn't need to take them for long because the Habs were likely to be eliminated in the first round. And to be fair and to remind everyone here, IT WAS 3-1. But then the Habs, thanks to Price, went on that run and before you knew it, Price had been popping these painkillers for two straight months and probably every day. But the team still should have leveled with us and not lied to us when Price finally hit the wall. But everything with the Habs under Bergevin is about ass covering and plausible deniability, things he probably learned while working in Chicago, no doubt.
manny
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No neck surgery yet, I guess?
manny
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It’s like that in all sports to some degree. Even in baseball, the number of sketchy, borderline abusive things that happened and we all just chalked it up to that just being how things are. The only way to really stand up to it was to quit.
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
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Masculinity in a violent blood sport like hockey isn't toxic, it's an absolute necessity.
In the 72 Summit Series that Canada was in the process of losing and being humiliated in, Bobby Clarke and his toxic masculinity (and the Sher-Wood he was carrying at the time) purposely broke Valeri Kharlamov's ankle, rendering him ineffective for the balance of that series, a series that he had been dominating up to that point.
Nobody wins anything in this sport without being a type A, full on Messier-like asshole who is prepared to kill to win. And yes, the sport today has become a repository of euroweenie sissy boy phonies who push and shove but don't hit unless the other guy isn't looking. And in the playoffs when the referees no longer protect them those players are exposed as the frauds they are. Do you think that the reason why Matthews and Marner choke every year in the playoffs is because they aren't talented? No, it's because they're a couple of pussies when all is said and done. Matthews is the epitome of what Humphrey Bogart described as a "pocket edition desperado" a phony tough guy. The two of them could use a healthy dose of some masculine toxins in time for the next playoff game. Sidney Crosby is every mother's dream and a great hockey player. But he won 3 Cups mostly by being the kind of player who would gladly cut your heart out and show it to you if you got between him and his destiny.
Toxic masculinity is pervasive and accepted in the NHL because it works. Unfortunately, some of the people involved don't know how to turn it off once they leave the ice and it bleeds into other aspects of their lives. But on the ice, toxic masculinity isn't a problem. If anything the game doesn't have enough of it.
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
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Physical assault is one thing but if we're going to fire coaches because they hurt a player's feelings then I have officially lost the will to live. If you as a player can't function because your coach chewed you out then you have chosen the wrong career and you will amount to nothing as a player. There's no such thing as a safe space in the real world. Reality doesn't give a shit about your feelings. A pro athlete, if he wants to keep earning a paycheck, needs to maintain a high level of performance. If he can't handle pressure or criticism, if he's going to assume the fetal position every time his coach yells at him, then he's too fragile to be in pro sports.
I don't know what Murray did exactly, but unless he was going above and beyond to terrorize his players then I don't understand what this is about. I hope for the sake of all other coaches that this investigation is about more than name calling or yelling.
hockeylover
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These are two entirely fucking different things though. No one wants to get rid of masculinity or toughness.
They want to get rid of the part where sex abuse, physical assault by coaches on players, forcing rookies to get naked and assaulting them/hazing them is accepted as normal.