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So every trade ever made was a failure unless a team won a cup? Man that's a high standard. The teams failures had nothing to do with their best player.
 
I don't get it. The team got the best player in the deal. They traded picks for an elite 21 year old. But it was a bad trade because the team was shit? That's a brutal take, no offence.
 
None taken if you don’t get that the move was as dumb as if we’d traded away the two firsts we later used on Marner and Matthews to grab some good young winger the year before.
 
Might have been Burke's only good move during his entire tenure here. He may have had 1-2 other decent ones but that was it. And that was largely why the trade seemed shit to many folks. Trading 2 1sts for a 21 year old stud is something I'm always game for. Always. It could have been a lot worse if the players Boston took were actually great, but the bigger issue was that Burke couldn't build a half decent team around him and committed blunder after blunder in trying to add pieces. Zero excuse for those picks to be that high and that's on Burke.

But in the end, it was hardly a catastrophe since they got the best player in the deal and a future hall of famer and the other guys were ok just ok.
 
Burke made lotsa mistakes. spent shitload on immobile size on the backend. shitty goalies. and voluntarily chose to build his team so that there were always 2 4th/AHL calibre lines. and failed to add any topline talent other than Phil.
 
Preston said:
Might have been Burke's only good move during his entire tenure here. He may have had 1-2 other decent ones but that was it. And that was largely why the trade seemed shit to many folks. Trading 2 1sts for a 21 year old stud is something I'm always game for. Always. It could have been a lot worse if the players Boston took were actually great, but the bigger issue was that Burke couldn't build a half decent team around him and committed blunder after blunder in trying to add pieces. Zero excuse for those picks to be that high and that's on Burke.

But in the end, it was hardly a catastrophe since they got the best player in the deal and a future hall of famer and the other guys were ok just ok.
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The goal is to win the Cup, right?

When a huge trade like that that deprives you of your next best three shots at adding elite players, you better have your roster damn close to being a top team, and not just putting the very first piece in place.
 
zeke said:
Burke made lotsa mistakes. spent shitload on immobile size on the backend. shitty goalies. and voluntarily chose to build his team so that there were always 2 4th/AHL calibre lines. and failed to add any topline talent other than Phil.
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Could’ve added three top players potentially instead of Phil, traded the rest of that roster for more picks and prospects, and built around all those guys with UFAs and trades. He was never in a position to compete so it was all for nothing.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
The goal is to win the Cup, right?

When a huge trade like that that deprives you of your next best three shots at adding elite players, you better have your roster damn close to being a top team, and not just putting the very first piece in place.
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If the first piece is a future hall of fame PPG+ 21 year old stud I take that all day every day over two 1st rounders at any point in team building. It's the GMs job to build the rest of the team. The trade is being criticized because he was too incompetent to build a half decent team because he was stuck in his ways about how teams should be built.

It would be almost like the Isles and Blue Jackets trading two 1st rounders for someone like a Stutzle, but Phil was probably better than him too at that point. No brainer honestly. The price was a gift at the time and no team will let their stud 21 year olds go for that package nowadays. He was just disliked by Boston because of old boys club things so they looked to move him.
 
hockeylover said:
If he wants a 5 year deal, he’s getting a 5 year deal no matter who the GM is, IMO. And the McJesus money was completely and totally worth every penny.
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Its not the point

Coming out of ELC for 5 years Dubas should of negotiated under 10 mil

Leafs should of bought a few extra years of cost certainty
 
Preston said:
If the first piece is a future hall of fame PPG+ 21 year old stud I take that all day every day over two 1st rounders at any point in team building. It's the GMs job to build the rest of the team. The trade is being criticized because he was too incompetent to build a half decent team because he was stuck in his ways about how teams should be built.

It would be almost like the Isles and Blue Jackets trading two 1st rounders for someone like a Stutzle, but Phil was probably better than him too at that point. No brainer honestly. The price was a gift at the time and no team will let their stud 21 year olds go for that package nowadays. He was just disliked by Boston because of old boys club things so they looked to move him.
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Yes if that player is a franchise C or a Hedman type
 
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