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Around the League 2019-2024 Edition

CH1 said:
Most GMs would kill to have Dubas' gig.

Not only did he inherit a great core, he also benefits from an unlimited budget to hire the best coaches, scouts, advisors, analytics, psychologists, medics, and everything else that can give his team an edge on the margins.

Sure, answering a bunch of questions from a packed house of cynical journalists is annoying, but it doesn't really consume more than 10 hrs out of his year.
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Hardest job does not = least desirable. You and I both know it's way easier to fade in the background on Arizona with 0 expectations than be a GM of one of the most disappointing sports franchises in the history of sports where they are hockey obsessed. I doubt they are harassing the Coyotes' GMs grandmother on twitter, for reference.

I don't feel bad for Dubas and I know he'd for sure prefer to stay in Toronto because it is a very fucking desirable place to be a GM. But that doesn't make it easy or pressure-free. At the end of the day he's human. Some horrible shit gets said about him on the daily and he isn't oblivious to it.
 
i think the inheriting thing is overblown personally, usually from lou admirers.

the team we had last year is almost entirely of his making, for better (115pts) or for worse (first round exit).
 
Preston said:
Hardest job does not = least desirable. You and I both know it's way easier to fade in the background on Arizona with 0 expectations than be a GM of one of the most disappointing sports franchises in the history of sports where they are hockey obsessed. I doubt they are harassing the Coyotes' GMs grandmother on twitter, for reference.
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Sure. The best jobs in the world are usually accompanied with a crazy amount of pressure.

And if Dubas wins a cup in TO, he might get a statue. In Zona, they might give him a 7 second soundbyte on the 6 o clock news.

So there are potential benefits to all that attention.

Anyway, the comparison between Dubas and Hughes is kind of silly. Because the timeline is completely different. Kent Hughes took over a dumpster fire, so he is enjoying an extended honeymoon while he rebuilds and sells whatever perishable assets he inherited to the highest bidder.

He'll be feeling the heat in a few years.

Dubas' honeymoon ended when they lost to the Habs in the first round.
 
CH1 said:
Sure. The best jobs in the world are usually accompanied with a crazy amount of pressure.

And if Dubas wins a cup in TO, he might get a statue. In Zona, they might give him a 7 second soundbyte on the 6 o clock news.

So there are potential benefits to all that attention.

Anyway, the comparison between Dubas and Hughes is kind of silly. Because the timeline is completely different. Kent Hughes took over a dumpster fire, so he is enjoying an extended honeymoon while he rebuilds and sells whatever perishable assets he inherited to the highest bidder.

He'll be feeling the heat in a few years.

Dubas' honeymoon ended when they lost to the Habs in the first round.
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I think being a GM is Montreal is almost as hard as it is in Toronto so you're not gonna hear me disagree with any of that.
 
hockeylover said:
i think the inheriting thing is overblown personally, usually from lou admirers.

the team we had last year is almost entirely of his making, for better (115pts) or for worse (first round exit).
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duly noted on the Habs board by Ggpx "he had to work around two major Lou fuckups (Zaitsev & Marleau) that really threw a wrench into the cogs"
 
hockeylover said:
well, your post came to mind when you said he only needed to deal with the bottom 6 and goalies.
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did you not read the post right underneath that one in which I stated Dubas has done a good job

BTW, I think he's done a pretty good job. Not his fault Auston Matthews and Mitch Marner turn into average players come playoff time.

Also, last year's first round playoff loss came against an elite team, and the margin was super slim.

That was entirely different from similar results vs Habs and Jackets in years prior. Those were pure choke jobs.
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hockeylover said:
sure i did, it's just unrelated to the inherited stuff i was making a point about.
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not sure what world you live in, but in mine, being blessed with a unicorn like Matthews (not to mention Mitch, Willie and JT looking to come home) is a massive advantage.
 
Aww dp is getting bullied. I would defend you but you said the Leafs d are better than their forwards and I can't go along with that unfortunately. I'm also afraid of those Habs fans. They're volatile psychopaths. They can't all be CH1s.
 
CH1 said:
not sure what world you live in, but in mine, being blessed with a unicorn like Matthews (not to mention Mitch, Willie and JT looking to come home) is a massive advantage.
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He was co-GM when we drafted Mitch. He plucked Hyman out of nowhere. He traded for Muzzin, he signed Brodie, he signed Holl out of the ECHL. That's not just the bottom 6 forwards, like your post said.

We've also seen countless UFAs not come home to Toronto, not sure why we're acting like that's automatic.
 
He did rebuild their D pretty successfully. It was admittedly in rough shape when he started with the team. I'm not a Dubas homer or anything but I think he deserves a lot of credit for that! Only thing he hasn't done is find a unicorn stud #1 out of thin air. And I do wish they had one!
 
hockeylover said:
He was co-GM when we drafted Mitch. He plucked Hyman out of nowhere. He traded for Muzzin, he signed Brodie, he signed Holl out of the ECHL. That's not just the bottom 6 forwards, like your post said.

We've also seen countless UFAs not come home to Toronto, not sure why we're acting like that's automatic.
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you crack me up...the above is why I said he was doing a good job.
 
Preston said:
Aww dp is getting bullied. I would defend you but you said the Leafs d are better than their forwards and I can't go along with that unfortunately. I'm also afraid of those Habs fans. They're volatile psychopaths. They can't all be CH1s.
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Do you disagree though that in terms of overall areas of team weakness, D ought to be last, then F, then G?

As in our D is where we have the least need. That was the context. Those idiots are advocating for trading Nylander AND Mucho for D. I pointed out our D is fine, which is true!
 
Wayward DP said:
Do you disagree though that in terms of overall areas of team weakness, D ought to be last, then F, then G?

As in our D is where we have the least need. That was the context. Those idiots are advocating for trading Nylander AND Mucho for D. I pointed out our D is fine, which is true!
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I think the stats have shown that they are better offensively than defensively. But yeah, a lot of them would advocate for them acquiring another run of the mill #4/5d which isn't gonna do anything or add anything they don't have.

Outside of the obvious absence of a stud, rare #1 that teams only find when they draft them, they are now clearly missing a Jake Muzzin type but maybe Liljegren can provide that. And yeah, I would explore trading one of their studs up front if they can get proper value but the most they would have gotten for Nylander is Gudbranson or some shit. Dude is perpetually undervalued by everyone; not a great candidate to trade. And yeah, their forwards would immediately look much weaker anyway.
 
CH1 said:
you crack me up...the above is why I said he was doing a good job.
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I'm just disagreeing with the inheritance stuff.

I know you've posted many times before you think he's done a good job and we lost to a strong Tampa team and I'm pretty sure I've even liked most of them!
 
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