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Around the League 2019-2024 Edition

Paces

Age 18

Zadina: 0gms, EV 0:00, 0gls/0pts, PP 0:00, 0gls/0pts --- QHL 66gms, 61gls/117pts
Robertson: 4gms, EV 11:03, 21gls/22pts, PP 1:02, 0gls/0pts -- OHL 46gms, 98gls/153pts

Age 19

Zadina: 9gms, EV 13:04, 0gls/9pts, PP 2:18, 9gls/18pts --- AHL 64gms, 23gls/49pts
Robertson: 6gms, EV 8:34, 0gls/14pts, PP 0:44, 0gls/0pts --- AHL 21gms, 20gls/63pts

Age 20

Zadina: 28gms, EV 12:37, 12gls/23pts, PP 2:31, 12gls/21pts --- AHL 21gms, 35gls/63pts
Robertson: 10gms, EV 9:47, 8gls/8pts, PP 0:28, 0gls/0pts --- AHL 28gms, 47gls/82pts

Age 21

Zadina: 49gms, EV 14:38, 5gls/22pts, PP 2:08, 5gls/10pts
Robertson: 15gms, EV 9:40, 11gls/27pts, PP 1:10, 0gls/0pts --- AHL 2gms, 41gls/82pts

Age 22

Zadina: 74gms, EV 12:20, 7gls/18pts, PP 1:50, 4gls/9pts
Robertson: ???

Age 23

Zadina: 30gms, EV 12:14, 8gls/19pts, PP 0:48, 0gls/0pts --- AHL 2gms, 41gls/41pts
Robertson: ???
 
The best thing for Zadina would probably be to head down to the AHL (which was probably Yzerman's intent), but he's gone this route instead. He'll need to find an ideal situation to succeed, one where he'll have talented line-mates - but in a sheltered role. Kind of like what happened to Tolvanen in Seattle.
 
I would sign him for the minimum. Give him a shot at camp. If it doesn't work out, you waive him or have a skill guy on the Marlies.

No harm, no risk. Unless he wants a real contract that can't be buried, then no.
 
Nothing about him excites me other than where he was drafted a whole ass 5 years ago. This is not a player that the Leafs should give any rope to. He has not done anything particularly interesting in the NHL or AHL since being drafted and he's going to be 24 by the start of next season. Could be a late bloomer... those happen sometimes. But Leafs have a guy of their own that arguably has shown more and deserves more rope than him and is younger. Having one of those is enough for a contender. Let the lottery teams chase low-probability lottery tickets like this.
 
1. Goalies are assholes as you may know
2. The Leafs literally had no goalie. They were desperate.

That is not the case for their forward depth. Adding known bad forwards to "give them a chance" is something Dubas did a lot of with absolutely no success. The Leafs are better than this.
 
Volcanologist said:
well no they aren't, they just gave a 3 year contract to a forward who not only is bad but can't play at all, and is 36 years old to boot.
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Fair. But two wrongs don't make a right! Reaves being bad does not mean Zadina is good. There are a million guys that I'd prefer over both of them.
 
Is Zadina even better than our existing young guy depth brigade that we struggle to find minutes for?

He had a good but not outstanding pre draft season in a fake junior league (QMJHL statistics don't equate to OHL or WHL production imo...the Q just doesn't produce prospects at the same rate as the other two anymore), a good but just good D+1 season in the AHL ( .59ppg...for comparison, 6 months younger at the same stage in his career, Willy was PPG in the SHL and .87ppg in the AHL) and he's appeared to have plateaued (or gotten worse) since then. So at this point, is he even better than Holmberg, Steeves, McMann?
 
MindzEye said:
and you want to give him like 1.5-2 million in guaranteed cap hit to find out?
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No, that's the thing. If he genuinely wants to prove himself, and walked away from all that dough, he has to take a one year minimum to play for a good team. Or otherwise go find the most money with some other team. But if money was his top priority, he wouldn't have let them terminate like he did, so it doesn't seem the dollars are driving him.
 
Preston said:
But we already have enough information to be pretty confident that he's shit. So my question to you is... Why?
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He's got a lot of skill, was projected to maybe be the best pure scorer of that draft I think.

We have a lot of information from his time with one team, and he had an okay year prior to this one, so I would want to see what's there with a change of scenery.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
No, that's the thing. If he genuinely wants to prove himself, and walked away from all that dough, he has to take a one year minimum to play for a good team. Or otherwise go find the most money with some other team. But if money was his top priority, he wouldn't have let them terminate like he did, so it doesn't seem the dollars are driving him.
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He didn't walk away from guaranteed money because he wants minutes and the minimum. He walked away from guaranteed money because his agent told him he could get a new/better opportunity for similar or more money.
 
MindzEye said:
He didn't walk away from guaranteed money because he wants minutes and the minimum. He walked away from guaranteed money because his agent told him he could get a new/better opportunity for similar or more money.
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Highly doubt that. Before they put him on waivers, you can be sure they offered him to every team and no one was interested.

If that's the case, they would've never expected to receive a better deal than his existing one. They're looking for a better opportunity, not more money, which he's done nothing to justify with his performance.
 
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