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Around the League 2019-2024 Edition

mbow30 said:
We only want EP because that’s about as good as you’d do in a Marner trade. But really the nucks win a Marner for EP swap, provided they can extend Marner.
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Why?

Pettersson is what, a top 10 centre in the league? Matthews-Pettersson up the middle would be the best centre combo the NHL has seen since prime Sid-Gino.

Counting stats are pretty much identical, but one is a good 2 way centre the other a good 2 way winger. I'll take the positional bias to the bank all day every day.
 
EP drives his lines, Mitch is not the same guy away from Matthews from a nerdies perspective.

Both lovely players though and if for whatever reason their teams wanted to trade them, they'd be ecstatic with that return.
 
WellPlayed said:
Brady would be absolutely perfect. Too bad Sens we'll never deal him here / Mitch will never sign the long term.
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Who knows.

Maybe getting paid beyond top dollar to be the big fish in a really shitty little pond and in a position to go head-to-head with Auston’s Leafs for years is exactly what Paul and his special boy might want.

The massive inferiority complex of the Sens franchise & fanbase is likewise a perfect fit for Mitch & co.
 
mbow30 said:
Marner has better counting stats
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2 yr 82 game splits:

EP: 37G, 97PTS
MM: 31G, 101PTS

Basically identical. Marner a few more points, EP a decent edge in goals.

mbow30 said:
better advanced numbers
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Eh?

2 yr Even Strength

EP: 3.10 P/60, 56.6% GF, 51.95% xG on 16.4 dzone FO/60 & 7.5 dzone starts/60
MM: 2.95 P/60, 58.7% GF , 53.17% xG, on 15.97 dzone FO/60 & 7.16 dzone starts/60

Again, almost identical but one plays centre and doesn't have Auston Matthews on his line.

mbow30 said:
and has been way more durable.
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EP has missed 4 games combined in the last 3 years. Mitch has missed 27.


mbow30 said:
EP was also moved to the wing when it mattered.
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Stop listening to Zeke. He was moved to 1LW to try to stack a line with JT Miller and as we've found out since was playing hurt. He's a centre, and a really good one.
 
Preston said:
EP drives his lines, Mitch is not the same guy away from Matthews from a nerdies perspective.
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This.

With all due respect to EP's most common wingers this season: Mikky, Kuzmenko & Boeser....Marner played 802 ES minutes next to Auston Matthews this season and only 303 minutes without. That's life on easy mode.
 
LeafGm said:
Who knows.

Maybe getting paid beyond top dollar to be the big fish in a really shitty little pond and in a position to go head-to-head with Auston’s Leafs for years is exactly what Paul and his special boy might want.

The massive inferiority complex of the Sens franchise & fanbase is likewise a perfect fit for Mitch & co.
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Interesting thought…embracing the full heel turn
 
The playoff performance stuff has taken center stage but that's not really what bugs me about Mitch. Perhaps a bit greedy and nitpicky since he's a winger but I just wish he did a better job driving his own line on a consistent basis.
 
leafman101 said:
Yeah Marner was shit this year. And he was still as good as EP. That’s the point.
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But then what about last year?

22-23

EP: 3.42 P/60 (2.57 P1/60) 51.9%xG
MM: 2.83 P/60 2.34 P1/60) 52.5%xG (50.7% w/o Auston, 54.1% with)

Was last year bad Mitch or good Mitch? Whatever it was, EP was better. This season, EP was "as good" but again looking at that whole w/o Auston thing is a massive cause for concern about Mitch's ability to drive a line. EP doesn't have that luxury of letting Auston do the work.
 
You’re looking at a bad year by marners standards and an outlier year by EP. In Ep’s down year he was a 66 point guy
 
EP is as good as Mitch offensively (though I'd argue better rounded because he shoots the puck), and drives his own line while being a centre who doesn't get sheltered minutes and does a pretty okay job defensively in them.
 
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