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Around The League - 2024-25 Regular Season

Ironically I feel that the NHL has a decent product right now, offense is up, games are fun and competitive, it was super easy to convert new fans to hockey, but the NHL laughably is incapable of marketing themselves. There is an opportunity too because the NBA isn’t doing too good right now, product is terrible.
 
Ironically I feel that the NHL has a decent product right now, offense is up, games are fun and competitive, it was super easy to convert new fans to hockey, but the NHL laughably is incapable of marketing themselves. There is an opportunity too because the NBA isn’t doing too good right now, product is terrible.
Problem is trying to find the next home run TV deal
 
Ironically I feel that the NHL has a decent product right now, offense is up, games are fun and competitive, it was super easy to convert new fans to hockey, but the NHL laughably is incapable of marketing themselves. There is an opportunity too because the NBA isn’t doing too good right now, product is terrible.
The NBA is horrible but even non-fans know their star players. NHL product is very good yet no one outside hard core fans know any of the stars. Ridiculous.
 
Bettman’s legacy will be very mixed. Sure, he spread hockey to “non-traditional” markets and kids are playing the game there but non-fans in the U.S., and also many hockey fans, have no idea who any hockey players, including McDavid and McKinnon, the two biggest stars of the sport, are. That’s inexcusable in 2025. Social media should make that make that easy. Next Commish should be a sports marketing guy.
hockey will never push players as the culture is "don't have a personality"
 
The NBA is horrible but even non-fans know their star players. NHL product is very good yet no one outside hard core fans know any of the stars. Ridiculous.
Helps when basketball is a global sport where stars are recognizable and game is played everywhere

Might be a minor point but NHL players are hiding behind helmets and hard to promote players in non hockey countries
 
Maybe but there’s no excuse in 2025 for the total anonymity of the league’s star players.
I think that's somewhat deliberate rather than unintentional. I don't think NHL owners (the guys who pay Bettman to do their bidding) want the league to promote star players like the NBA does. They don't want stars because stars have egos and want more money. They want players who are humble and compliant.

And, to a certain extent, the league needs this because it has a significant number of franchises in undesirable markets that need to keep existing in order to provide the revenues that TV doesn't give them. No NBA type of star player is ever going to play in Winnipeg voluntarily. We saw this when the NBA was in Vancouver. The Grizzlies couldn't even draft certain guys because their sneaker endorsement deals prohibited it.
 
Helps when basketball is a global sport where stars are recognizable and game is played everywhere

Might be a minor point but NHL players are hiding behind helmets and hard to promote players in non hockey countries
Basketball and hockey (unlike football and baseball) are so-called "global" sports but the NBA and NHL aren't. They are North American leagues catering to North American fans who don't give a shit about the rest of the world. Being "global" is not a selling feature in a country where right wing yobs are continuously blaming "globalists" for everything.

The NBA popularity is down because it's too "global" and, of course, it's always been just a little too bla...I mean "urban" for a lot of white American fans. MLB also has lots of brown guys from the DR and fewer white guys than before. The NHL is nearly all white but too many players have foreign names and not enough of them are born in the USA. So hockey can never be as popular as the NFL, where mostly white quarterbacks lead their black teammates down the field.

Forget about global appeal. These are mostly American organizations owned by white people, with fan bases that are also predominantly white and, for the most part, not overly educated (most college football fans never went to college and they buy their NCAA merchandise at Walmart, not at the campus bookstore)
 
Basketball and hockey (unlike football and baseball) are so-called "global" sports but the NBA and NHL aren't. They are North American leagues catering to North American fans who don't give a shit about the rest of the world. Being "global" is not a selling feature in a country where right wing yobs are continuously blaming "globalists" for everything.

The NBA popularity is down because it's too "global" and, of course, it's always been just a little too bla...I mean "urban" for a lot of white American fans. MLB also has lots of brown guys from the DR and fewer white guys than before. The NHL is nearly all white but too many players have foreign names and not enough of them are born in the USA. So hockey can never be as popular as the NFL, where mostly white quarterbacks lead their black teammates down the field.

Forget about global appeal. These are mostly American organizations owned by white people, with fan bases that are also predominantly white and, for the most part, not overly educated (most college football fans never went to college and they buy their NCAA merchandise at Walmart, not at the campus bookstore)
Global in the sense of a sport played by tens of millions same as soccer.

NBA is down a bit because of the BS in the sport from load management to the game that is now made up of 3 point chuckers

NFL is a money printing machine due to gambling and huge college following , its a cult .

I went to the NFL draft and 500k in attendance , it was fucken insane for a league draft
 
Ironically I feel that the NHL has a decent product right now, offense is up, games are fun and competitive, it was super easy to convert new fans to hockey, but the NHL laughably is incapable of marketing themselves. There is an opportunity too because the NBA isn’t doing too good right now, product is terrible.
PK Subban was the “marketing machine” the NHL had in their hands, but wasn’t successfully use the way PGA used “Tiger” back in the heyday to go mainstream - albeit Subban wasn’t the generational talent and McDavid / Matthews et al don’t have that “SHOWTIME” personality…
 
PK Subban was the “marketing machine” the NHL had in their hands, but wasn’t successfully use the way PGA used “Tiger” back in the heyday to go mainstream - albeit Subban wasn’t the generational talent and McDavid / Matthews et al don’t have that “SHOWTIME” personality…
What could the league have done more with PK ?

Tiger carried the PGA on its back and was a global sporting icon

The generational talents in the NHL are boring and the odd commercial wont do much

One dude on a podcast said it best , you need rebels and players who cause shit that helps the league get noticed

He mentioned the MLB steroid era , NBA bad boys , etc...
 
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