Sal_Butera
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Lieweke won’t allow Jacobs to control him … which is one of the jobs requirementsLieweke
Lieweke won’t allow Jacobs to control him … which is one of the jobs requirementsLieweke
Bettman's successor should be someone with a sports marketing background. It should NOT be Bill Daily.
Problem is trying to find the next home run TV dealIronically I feel that the NHL has a decent product right now, offense is up, games are fun and competitive, it was super easy to convert new fans to hockey, but the NHL laughably is incapable of marketing themselves. There is an opportunity too because the NBA isn’t doing too good right now, product is terrible.
The NBA is horrible but even non-fans know their star players. NHL product is very good yet no one outside hard core fans know any of the stars. Ridiculous.Ironically I feel that the NHL has a decent product right now, offense is up, games are fun and competitive, it was super easy to convert new fans to hockey, but the NHL laughably is incapable of marketing themselves. There is an opportunity too because the NBA isn’t doing too good right now, product is terrible.
It’s not that. No one, organizations, or their players, treat the regular season with any seriousness.NBA looks like Indy Car in the 90s - it became too “foreign” for the US market.
hockey will never push players as the culture is "don't have a personality"Bettman’s legacy will be very mixed. Sure, he spread hockey to “non-traditional” markets and kids are playing the game there but non-fans in the U.S., and also many hockey fans, have no idea who any hockey players, including McDavid and McKinnon, the two biggest stars of the sport, are. That’s inexcusable in 2025. Social media should make that make that easy. Next Commish should be a sports marketing guy.
it's all about load managementIt’s not that. No one, organizations, or their players, treat the regular season with any seriousness.
Visionary? NHL owners? What is it you're expecting here? They'll choose someone that'll toe the line.Isn’t Daily a CBA hatchet man? i.e. A zero-sum worldview lawyer there contain aggregate player revenue? If so, not exactly a visionary.
It’s BS.it's all about load management
Helps when basketball is a global sport where stars are recognizable and game is played everywhereThe NBA is horrible but even non-fans know their star players. NHL product is very good yet no one outside hard core fans know any of the stars. Ridiculous.
I think that's somewhat deliberate rather than unintentional. I don't think NHL owners (the guys who pay Bettman to do their bidding) want the league to promote star players like the NBA does. They don't want stars because stars have egos and want more money. They want players who are humble and compliant.Maybe but there’s no excuse in 2025 for the total anonymity of the league’s star players.
But precisely the type of person the cheapskate owners would want.Isn’t Daily a CBA hatchet man? i.e. A zero-sum worldview lawyer there contain aggregate player revenue? If so, not exactly a visionary.
Basketball and hockey (unlike football and baseball) are so-called "global" sports but the NBA and NHL aren't. They are North American leagues catering to North American fans who don't give a shit about the rest of the world. Being "global" is not a selling feature in a country where right wing yobs are continuously blaming "globalists" for everything.Helps when basketball is a global sport where stars are recognizable and game is played everywhere
Might be a minor point but NHL players are hiding behind helmets and hard to promote players in non hockey countries
Global in the sense of a sport played by tens of millions same as soccer.Basketball and hockey (unlike football and baseball) are so-called "global" sports but the NBA and NHL aren't. They are North American leagues catering to North American fans who don't give a shit about the rest of the world. Being "global" is not a selling feature in a country where right wing yobs are continuously blaming "globalists" for everything.
The NBA popularity is down because it's too "global" and, of course, it's always been just a little too bla...I mean "urban" for a lot of white American fans. MLB also has lots of brown guys from the DR and fewer white guys than before. The NHL is nearly all white but too many players have foreign names and not enough of them are born in the USA. So hockey can never be as popular as the NFL, where mostly white quarterbacks lead their black teammates down the field.
Forget about global appeal. These are mostly American organizations owned by white people, with fan bases that are also predominantly white and, for the most part, not overly educated (most college football fans never went to college and they buy their NCAA merchandise at Walmart, not at the campus bookstore)
PK Subban was the “marketing machine” the NHL had in their hands, but wasn’t successfully use the way PGA used “Tiger” back in the heyday to go mainstream - albeit Subban wasn’t the generational talent and McDavid / Matthews et al don’t have that “SHOWTIME” personality…Ironically I feel that the NHL has a decent product right now, offense is up, games are fun and competitive, it was super easy to convert new fans to hockey, but the NHL laughably is incapable of marketing themselves. There is an opportunity too because the NBA isn’t doing too good right now, product is terrible.
What could the league have done more with PK ?PK Subban was the “marketing machine” the NHL had in their hands, but wasn’t successfully use the way PGA used “Tiger” back in the heyday to go mainstream - albeit Subban wasn’t the generational talent and McDavid / Matthews et al don’t have that “SHOWTIME” personality…