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Around The League - 2024-25 Regular Season

GEEMAN said:
What could the league have done more with PK ?

Tiger carried the PGA on its back and was a global sporting icon

The generational talents in the NHL are boring and the odd commercial wont do much

One dude on a podcast said it best , you need rebels and players who cause shit that helps the league get noticed

He mentioned the MLB steroid era , NBA bad boys , etc...
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Exactly. But those kind of players are also the exact type which NHL owners do not want.
 
GEEMAN said:
What could the league have done more with PK ?

Tiger carried the PGA on its back and was a global sporting icon

The generational talents in the NHL are boring and the odd commercial wont do much

One dude on a podcast said it best , you need rebels and players who cause shit that helps the league get noticed

He mentioned the MLB steroid era , NBA bad boys , etc...
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For the NHL to go mainstream they need to be able to penetrate the hearts & minds of the inner city in the US quite honestly.

Hockey is becoming more & more of an elite only sport that only rich kids can afford
 
Sal_Butera said:
For the NHL to go mainstream they need to be able to penetrate the hearts & minds of the inner city in the US quite honestly.

Hockey is becoming more & more of an elite only sport that only rich kids can afford
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Which is fine since tickets to NHL games are priced in a way that only rich people can afford. The days of the $8 standing room ticket at the Forum are long gone.
 
lecoqsportif said:
NBA is global.
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There’s been a big spike in Chinese kids playing the sport - penetrating the hearts & minds of the 2nd largest populace wouldn’t be too shabby especially since (by pure #s) there’s a sizable portion of “rich kids” who have started to play hockey amongst them
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
Basketball and hockey (unlike football and baseball) are so-called "global" sports but the NBA and NHL aren't. They are North American leagues catering to North American fans who don't give a shit about the rest of the world. Being "global" is not a selling feature in a country where right wing yobs are continuously blaming "globalists" for everything.

The NBA popularity is down because it's too "global" and, of course, it's always been just a little too bla...I mean "urban" for a lot of white American fans. MLB also has lots of brown guys from the DR and fewer white guys than before. The NHL is nearly all white but too many players have foreign names and not enough of them are born in the USA. So hockey can never be as popular as the NFL, where mostly white quarterbacks lead their black teammates down the field.

Forget about global appeal. These are mostly American organizations owned by white people, with fan bases that are also predominantly white and, for the most part, not overly educated (most college football fans never went to college and they buy their NCAA merchandise at Walmart, not at the campus bookstore)
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there are more black starting Qbs than ever, as usual you didn't let the facts get in the way.

NBA is not too urban, if anything it is more and more Euro and the issue is all the players do is launch 3s, hell u have 7'0+ centres launching them.
 
Sal_Butera said:
PK Subban was the “marketing machine” the NHL had in their hands, but wasn’t successfully use the way PGA used “Tiger” back in the heyday to go mainstream - albeit Subban wasn’t the generational talent and McDavid / Matthews et al don’t have that “SHOWTIME” personality…
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Subban was told to know his role...
 
Sal_Butera said:
For the NHL to go mainstream they need to be able to penetrate the hearts & minds of the inner city in the US quite honestly.

Hockey is becoming more & more of an elite only sport that only rich kids can afford
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Good point affordability is the key

It would require a ton of funding and creativity to get inner city participation
 
TheCountofMonteCristo said:
there are more black starting Qbs than ever, as usual you didn't let the facts get in the way.

NBA is not too urban, if anything it is more and more Euro and the issue is all the players do is launch 3s, hell u have 7'0+ centres launching them.
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Much cheaper putting on a helmet and cleats where uniforms are supplied and black kids can play from early grade and up to college with sponsorships .

You have a son and your hockey expenses over a decade is not affordable for most inner city folks
 
TheCountofMonteCristo said:
there are more black starting Qbs than ever, as usual you didn't let the facts get in the way.

NBA is not too urban, if anything it is more and more Euro and the issue is all the players do is launch 3s, hell u have 7'0+ centres launching them.
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I think the biggest problem with the NBA is that there's no body contact like there used to be in the 80's. It's a pantywaist sport now.
 
Hockey is the number one sport only in Canada and Finland.

Combine population of <50 million.

And two of the “shyest” countries you’ll ever come across.

But that doesn’t mean the NHL should not at least try to market their big stars
 
GEEMAN said:
Much cheaper putting on a helmet and cleats where uniforms are supplied and black kids can play from early grade and up to college with sponsorships .

You have a son and your hockey expenses over a decade is not affordable for most inner city folks
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it was "only" 150000 over 15 years including travel...
 
Sal_Butera said:
For the NHL to go mainstream they need to be able to penetrate the hearts & minds of the inner city in the US quite honestly.

Hockey is becoming more & more of an elite only sport that only rich kids can afford
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The biggest problem with hockey is that you need a rink, and rinks are expensive (and limited). That's not an easy problem to solve.
 
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