GrandWazoo
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So Seattle had only one side deal for the whole draft, for a 4th round pick???
So Seattle had only one side deal for the whole draft, for a 4th round pick???
very meh in the minors but was great in the covid season (29 games)This player any good
Gord Miller said yesterday scouts are licking their chops for next 3-drafts, and have been for a while due to depth of talent w franchise players at top of each draft#FrancisFuckedUp
or maybe he’s deliberately tanking — solid franchise players coming up next yr and the subsequent year
#FrancisFuckedUp
or maybe he’s deliberately tanking — solid franchise players coming up next yr and the subsequent year
Even if he's tanking, take picks from teams that are scared of losing players, or flip some players.
He left way better players, with cheap contracts, on the table. There were deals to be had for sure.
Teams said no side deals this time around .
We are losing 1 player , take your pick
Who are the way better players that would of made a difference ?
Leaks (and so far they've been accurate) before the draft that Francis prices were outrageous and that the ask to make Seattle ignore a player was a 1st and a solid prospect. If that's anywhere near the truth then of course no side deals were made.
You seem to think that all GMs got smarter this time, I don't think so, GMs are not smarter, they never have been, not collectively anyway, and you'll see it again during free agency. I think Francis fucked up.
Yeah makes no sense. I am mildly confused about this situation. It lends credence to what Canes fans complained about re Francis: The least interesting man in the world. Kind of suits his playing days. The least interesting 1800 career points player in league history.
The man just goes about his job. Bashing his quiet demeanor isn't necessary imo.Yeah makes no sense. I am mildly confused about this situation. It lends credence to what Canes fans complained about re Francis: The least interesting man in the world. Kind of suits his playing days. The least interesting 1800 career points player in league history.
The man just goes about his job. Bashing his quiet demeanor isn't necessary imo.
Kraken have a more solid fanbase compared to Vegas when they entered the league....Seattle people know hockey more than Vegas people. Kraken ownership is ok with building slowly.
I get that teams learned their lessons and improved and I wasn't expecting the same level of wheeling and dealing that happened last time, but down to 0?? Nothing??? No way. GMs are always looking to deal, it's in their nature, but it takes 2 to tango. There was offers to flip Tarasenko, with some salary retained, not sure what the offers were, but Dunn was available and that was a good pick.
You were asking me about better player picks?
Jake Bean over Geekie
Adam Gaudette over John Quenneville
Christian Fischer over a 4th round pick (Pitlick)
Domi over Bayreuther
Athanasiou over MacDermid
Voracek or Van Riemsdyk over Twarynski
Donato over True
Of those 7 picks, only Geekie will be an NHLer.
Other than Bean`s possible upside the others are junk and had no value
Would you take JVR or Voracek for free right now ?
They're all better than the crap they picked.Other than Bean`s possible upside the others are junk and had no value
Would you take JVR or Voracek for free right now ?
Didn’t Francis acquire Teravainen + Bickell cap dump for a 2nd round pick to bail out Hawks in 2015 or was that Rutherford? IMO that’s what he was looking for at expansion draft but fellow GMs got smart, and wouldn’t offer up the high picksI went through his 4 seasons with Carolina and he acquired nobody by trade in 4 seasons. It's quite impressive really.