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CH1 said:
The answer is that like most experiments, we have no idea if the MSL experience will work.

We also have no idea if Hughes will be a good GM — sure, he has shown that he can trade both solid vets and cap space for futures, but that’s the easy part of the job and not a permanent assignment
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That's not what I'm asking, though.

It's impossible to know how Person X will do in Y Position, all we can do is guess. However, we can make educated guesses based on body of work and their amount of experience leading into receiving that position. Maybe the team interviewing can see how they mesh with each other.

So based off of Martin St. Louis's previous work, what made him the best candidate to be the head coach of the Montreal Canadiens, besides being good friends with Kent Hughes? And again, based off of his experience, what makes you think he could be a good coach?

The Charlatan didn't work out as GM here, but when he got hired, you could say: Two years as Chicago's Director of Player Personnel, and one year as the assistant GM. He's got some experience in related jobs.

St. Louis's background was... half a season as a consultant for the Blue Jackets' special teams and a few years coaching 12 year olds.
 
That’s why I said “experiment”. This was not your typical coach hire.
 
Sal_Butera said:
Agreed - Only add whether Gorton and Bobrov will be good in their roles vs their historical track record..
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I can say with extreme confidence: Gorton & Bobrov (and Martin Lapointe) need to go.

Based on what Gorton & Bobrov did in New York and what's happened here since they've got here, the same things are repeating themselves.

Get them out of here before they continue fucking things up.
 
If MSL fails, there is no shortage of guys with an interesting track record who find themselves suddenly unemployed or some up and coming dudes from the college/junior ranks
 
Habsy said:
It's an intentional distraction during the retool. You're going to hire a guy that'll win more than he should when you're tanking?
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Well, that's the thing. Here's my follow-up.

If St. Louis's a distraction, cool. Fair enough. Why he would be a distraction instead of Burrows/Robidas or numerous other French speaking candidates is somewhat curious, but fine. Whatever.

But if that's the case, why has he been personally handling Slafkovsky's development? If you hired St. Louis just to be a distraction and just a temporary coach until the rebuild's done, why in the fuck is he handling Slafkovsky? This isn't 20-20 hindsight, I've been the most annoying fucker on this board for the last 15 years when it comes to rushing players in the league. We're all in agreement that St. Louis wasn't hired because of his competences as a coach, but we're giving him our first overall pick to be personally responsible for?

Another follow-up: Since that's the case, why was Slafkovsky alright for the St. Louis treatment, but not Mailloux & Roy?

I'm curious, because this doesn't seem like it's run like a proper franchise.
 
MSL was not a distraction. LOL.

He was an unorthodox hire based on his personality and untested coaching philosophies that found a receptive audience in his buddy Kent
 
I don't think he's a distraction, I just think he was lucky enough to be Kent Hughes's friend.

That was his main attribute. Anytime someone gets hired for a position they were never interested in applying for, I usually have some questions about it.

Martin St. Louis never applied for the job. I don't think he was even interested in the job. Kent Hughes just searched him out because they had talked at the rink a bunch of times.

What are his untested coaching philosophies, btw? I don't think he's doing any actual coaching. That's what the assistants are there for.
 
CH1 said:
MSL was not a distraction. LOL.

He was an unorthodox hire based on his personality and untested coaching philosophies that found a receptive audience in his buddy Kent
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Uh huh.

And what else? Unless you believe that's the silver bullet in which case, disagree. Different people have different agendas on the same path.

Kent needed approval
 
GGpX said:
Martin St. Louis never applied for the job. I don't think he was even interested in the job. Kent Hughes just searched him out because they had talked at the rink a bunch of times.
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You don't say
 
Habsy said:
It's an intentional distraction during the retool. You're going to hire a guy that'll win more than he should when you're tanking?
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Yes, cause the team needs heros and at least the coach is a local hero. And he's not a wrecking ball like Roy.
 
Habsy said:
Uh huh.

And what else? Unless you believe that's the silver bullet in which case, disagree. Different people have different agendas on the same path.

Kent needed approval
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I have no problem with it. Whether MSL proves too green and/or unqualified for the job when it stars to matter, it’s clear that he’s the type of coach that Hugo wants (modern, player development based, new tactics, etc) and fits in with the other org hires like Adam Nicholas.
 
GGpX said:
That's not what I'm asking, though.

It's impossible to know how Person X will do in Y Position, all we can do is guess. However, we can make educated guesses based on body of work and their amount of experience leading into receiving that position. Maybe the team interviewing can see how they mesh with each other.

So based off of Martin St. Louis's previous work, what made him the best candidate to be the head coach of the Montreal Canadiens, besides being good friends with Kent Hughes? And again, based off of his experience, what makes you think he could be a good coach?

The Charlatan didn't work out as GM here, but when he got hired, you could say: Two years as Chicago's Director of Player Personnel, and one year as the assistant GM. He's got some experience in related jobs.

St. Louis's background was... half a season as a consultant for the Blue Jackets' special teams and a few years coaching 12 year olds.
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Great hair played a part
 
Doesn’t matter who’s coaching this team until at least 2025 at the earliest, and by then we’ll see if Marty has grown into the role of competent/good head coach. Until then I wouldn’t give it two seconds of thought as he’s not hindering the confidence or growth of anyone important on the roster.
 
Yeah. Being a Habs fan is mostly waiting around till trade deadlines and draft day

Team is super disjointed and hard to watch on a regular basis
 
CH1 said:
Yeah. Being a Habs fan is mostly waiting around till trade deadlines and draft day

Team is super disjointed and hard to watch on a regular basis
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Too long for a banner or bumper sticker
 
I really hope Hughes has a long term plan to secure a top end forward
 
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