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GDT - Return of Reim Take 2

Haha, wow, what a brutal give-away. And JVR doesn't waste the opportunity.

It's not turning out to be a fun return for Jimmy Reimer.
 
Reimer hasn't been great, but with the exception of the first eight minutes of the second period, the Leafs have been dominating the Panthers.
 
Worst eye scouting ever.
I had a look for that post with the search function, and it was even funnier than I remembered.

This will be getting re-posted a bunch over the years, I'm sure:

I still do have concerns about Marner's raw tools - shot, speed, size - that may stop him from being elite.

Yup. It is a very very very legit concern. He won't be a complete bust but it's entirely realistic that he isn't elite - in fact I'd probably bet on that at this point. He's simply not quick or especially fast enough and his shot is simply not good enough. A lot of his potential comes from his offensive IQ and vision, and I don't like relying on that too much when it comes to elite prospects. His raw tools aren't nearly as impressive as you guys believe. He's exceptionally average in almost all areas.

With that said, he thinks the game at such a high level that he'll eventually figure it out and become a quality NHL player. I just don't quite see the raw tools that you guys see.

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Well he has vision and high hockey IQ. I just mean his raw tools. He doesn't have enough there. The advantage of him feasting on mediocre OHLers will be gone. He worked that to perfection. He figured out a way to take a fat shit on the weak talent without having elite raw tools. It was an impressive thing but there is no guarantee he can do that in the NHL too. That's asking a lot.

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When I say Sam Gagner, I'm not saying he'll be another Sam Gagner. Which wouldn't be the worst thing in the world - he's a solid possession player and criminally undervalued. I'm just saying that's his floor. They have comparable skillsets. The major difference is Marner was the main driver on his OHL line, Gagner wasn't. However, the comparison is an excellent one on all facets - ignoring the OHL numbers, they have nearly identical raw tools. I'd bet money on him being better than Gagner only because of the rarity of a player with those numbers is only becoming as good as Gagner, but I worst case scenario he's another Gagner. He will likely be anywhere from a good 2nd liner to a 1st liner with an outside chance at elite though.

I just want to make sure you people have realistic expectations. Don't set yourselves up for disappointment by already calling him a future "all time Leaf great." It's a bit much, really.
 
if that was Andersen, leaf fans would be crying that every goal came on a point blank chance thanks to crap D.
 
ES

Rielly-Zaitsev 11:30, 52cf%
Gardiner-Carrick 9:30, 83cf%
Hunwick-Polak 9:15, 39cf%

feel free to play that bottom pair even less, babs.
 
if that was Andersen, leaf fans would be crying that every goal came on a point blank chance thanks to crap D.

wait, wasn't 90% of the board (especially you) ready to lynch Andersen the first 5 games of the season?
 
Panthers blueline has been exposed in this game. Ekblad ... not having a good season. Myers 2.0?
 
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