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Habs Acquire Joel Edmundson

Habsy said:
Now you're comparing Edmundson to Draisaitl? Batshit.

Considering the D partners Edmundson (hereafter known as JE) has had in St. Louis and Carolina I think the numbers speak volumes. He was subpar with very good partners. Better partners than he will have with the Habs.
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Shea Weber had terrible advanced stats his whole career. Chiarot had terrible ones before joining the Habs. Xavier Ouellet has pretty good advanced stats. I take them with a big scoop of salt.
 
GrandWazoo said:
Shea Weber had terrible advanced stats his whole career. Chiarot had terrible ones before joining the Habs. Xavier Ouellet has pretty good advanced stats. I take them with a big scoop of salt.
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Bingo (y)

Team stats are a much better indicator
 
Look guys ... don't over-think this. Edmundson is a decent third pairing LD who can play up a pairing if needed without being terrible and can play the right side in a pinch. He's not a power play guy, won't get you a ton of goals and doesn't pass the puck with any real flair. He kills penalties and plays with a physical edge. He's fairly basic ... nothing more, nothing less. Eddie's not a guy you get to fix your D problems, but he's not a guy that's going to break anything either. He's not as bad as his advanced metrics lead one to believe, but he's not anything better than a 3rd pairing guy either. Never has been, and more likely than not he never will be. He's ... fine.
 
Not at $4m he’s not.

It’s what you pay a third line guy that matters. Realistically he isn’t worth more than $3m max. Because of taxes and UFA i can deal with $3.5m but there is no way I sign him to more money than Chiarot is making and screw up the salary structure for a guy like Edmundson.
 
Sal_Butera said:
Ferraro and Aaron Ward have mentioned based on conversations with players - that players may go to the union and ask for a one time buyout option to be instituted into present CBA to allow team to have more flexibility prior to start of next season.

That would be so amazing!
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goodbye price
 
GEEMAN said:
What needs to happen is team options on long term contacts so they can rid themselves on Alzners

Teams need some mechanism in place for flexibility
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or....hear me out.....they need to stop signing stupid contracts with players
 
GEEMAN said:
Bingo, too many moving parts

Leon is terrible 5/5 stats wise …..who wouldn't take him

Spreadsheets don't win games , teams put way too much emphasis on numbers

Should be based on team stats and major fluctuations in play

Easier to identify that PDO is unsustainable , or a team improves 20 points but their powerplay was 60% or had a team of career years

To say that Joel was good in one area and shit in 2 others and transferring to Montreal and making a projection is just a gamble
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i do find the missing part of advanced stats is the PP and PK elements

leon is also 55% corsi in his career
so not like the advance stats hate him

he also had 27 goals and 66 points in 71 games at even strength
 
GrandWazoo said:
Shea Weber had terrible advanced stats his whole career. Chiarot had terrible ones before joining the Habs. Xavier Ouellet has pretty good advanced stats. I take them with a big scoop of salt.
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yep
zone starts, quality of comp, quality of linemates, etc matter
 
Habsy said:
Not at $4m he’s not.

It’s what you pay a third line guy that matters. Realistically he isn’t worth more than $3m max. Because of taxes and UFA i can deal with $3.5m but there is no way I sign him to more money than Chiarot is making and screw up the salary structure for a guy like Edmundson.
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yep i will reserve my hate for when he gets an alzner deal
 
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