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Les Habitants Prospects Thread

Habsy said:
And in that research did a reason arise? Pretty peculiar.
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Honestly, no. There's no rhyme or reason to it.

While their record of drafting in Finland is better, it's not better by much.

Habs have drafted Finns:

1st round: 2x (Kotkaniemi & Koivu)
2nd round: 4x (Kapanen, Ylonen, Ikonen, Lehkonen)
3rd round: 3x (Koivu, Nattinen, Mikkola)

since 1990.

For context: We've drafted more players from Slovakia (Slafkovsky, Mesar, Hossa) in the first round than we have Swedes and Fins.

If I had to point to something? Pre-Timmins, I don't know the recruitment staff, but there was always a Don Cherry-esque prejudice towards Europeans that some had. During Timmins' reign, he had a notable bias for American players.

Ultimately, if you pick the right player, their passport shouldn't matter, but it's interesting how little this organization has tried in Europe.
 
Forgetting JT Miller's contract for just a moment: The price it would cost us just to acquire him would already be significantly steep. As mentioned, he's a premium player coming off three consecutive elite seasons. I'm not sure there's any realistic price I'd be comfortable with to acquire him.

But when you take his contract into consideration? No thank you, I'm not in the least bit interested.
 
From draft 0 players from Sweden from 1982 to 2011 in the first 3 rounds.

After that we drafted Collberg, De La Rose, Vejdemo, Olofsson, Norlinder and Engstrom.
 
GGpX said:
Forgetting JT Miller's contract for just a moment: The price it would cost us just to acquire him would already be significantly steep. As mentioned, he's a premium player coming off three consecutive elite seasons. I'm not sure there's any realistic price I'd be comfortable with to acquire him.

But when you take his contract into consideration? No thank you, I'm not in the least bit interested.
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Contract doesn't bother me as much, 8M cap hit isn't that crazy and he's the type of player that can still be useful with reduced production, kinda like Pavelski.

I don't think we're good trade partners though for what the Canucks would be looking for. I'd trade Dach for JT in an instant though, but Vancouver won't go for that.
 
Given what Sal thinks of Justin Barron, I’m astonished that he would want any part of the forward version of him, Elias Pettersson. Makes no sense. Must be the Rosayyyy talking.
 
Krustchev said:
Given what Sal thinks of Justin Barron, I’m astonished that he would want any part of the forward version of him, Elias Pettersson. Makes no sense. Must be the Rosayyyy talking.
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J Barron did not even have confidence in his offensive game when he was traded, complete wreck.
 
GrandWazoo said:
Contract doesn't bother me as much, 8M cap hit isn't that crazy and he's the type of player that can still be useful with reduced production, kinda like Pavelski.

I don't think we're good trade partners though for what the Canucks would be looking for. I'd trade Dach for JT in an instant though, but Vancouver won't go for that.
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Nucks would love some cap relief at some point
 
Krustchev said:
Given what Sal thinks of Justin Barron, I’m astonished that he would want any part of the forward version of him, Elias Pettersson. Makes no sense. Must be the Rosayyyy talking.
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Cmon now, one doesn’t get 102pts followed by 89pts while being defensively responsible from the get go by pure luck.

dipshit only wishes he will one day develop the capability of defensive awareness…

But yes Pettersson plays a pousse caca game, but so did Stevie Y before he was read the riot act by Scotty 9years into his NHL career ..
 
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GrandWazoo said:
Contract doesn't bother me as much, 8M cap hit isn't that crazy and he's the type of player that can still be useful with reduced production, kinda like Pavelski.

I don't think we're good trade partners though for what the Canucks would be looking for. I'd trade Dach for JT in an instant though, but Vancouver won't go for that.
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Yes, but here's the problem: To realistically acquire him, we have to give up assets that would, in theory, "soften" the blow for the large caphit we'd be taking on. The Patrik Laine types, who are disgruntled addicts without a good thing to say about anyone or anything in the organization they're in? That those teams have to pay to give him away? Not trying to be mean with Laine, but that's what happened. We were given a second round pick to take on his contract.

Let's say we get Miller, it would cost us, say, Good Prospect A + Good Prospect B + 1st round pick. Say, two of Hage/Mailloux/Beck/Dobes/Engstrom and Calgary's first round pick. Just for discussion sake, not trying to turn this into a "That's way too much! / That's way too little!" debate.

Assuming the two players we traded turn into NHLers, they make the Miller contract much easier to digest because we don't need to pay any of those guys any real money for the majority of Miller's time here. It's one of my biggest gripes with The Charlatan, who had Price & Weber/Subban combined for 25% +/- of the team's cap but no cheap talent to surround those two with.

I'd be much more interested in finding out what's going on with Mason MacTavish and what the asking price for him is.
 
GGpX said:
Yes, but here's the problem: To realistically acquire him, we have to give up assets that would, in theory, "soften" the blow for the large caphit we'd be taking on. The Patrik Laine types, who are disgruntled addicts without a good thing to say about anyone or anything in the organization they're in? That those teams have to pay to give him away? Not trying to be mean with Laine, but that's what happened. We were given a second round pick to take on his contract.

Let's say we get Miller, it would cost us, say, Good Prospect A + Good Prospect B + 1st round pick. Say, two of Hage/Mailloux/Beck/Dobes/Engstrom and Calgary's first round pick. Just for discussion sake, not trying to turn this into a "That's way too much! / That's way too little!" debate.

Assuming the two players we traded turn into NHLers, they make the Miller contract much easier to digest because we don't need to pay any of those guys any real money for the majority of Miller's time here. It's one of my biggest gripes with The Charlatan, who had Price & Weber/Subban combined for 25% +/- of the team's cap but no cheap talent to surround those two with.

I'd be much more interested in finding out what's going on with Mason MacTavish and what the asking price for him is.
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You’re overthinking it. We have ton of cap space, a pretty decent prospect pipeline including Demidov who will be on an entry level contract, and big contracts expiring in 2 years. Plus Vancouver won’t want a future only deal as they want to win now. Let’s say for discussion that we trade Dach, one of Mailloux/Engstrom and Cgy 1st. We can very easily manage that contract with the Demidov, Hage, Beck, Reinbacher, etc, coming up in the next years.
 
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