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I hear there is a big meeting today. In any case, I put the most of the blame on those people who believe the present restrictions don’t apply to them.

Right now Ottawa’s numbers have been pretty steady averaging 35-50 new cases per day but given Christmas week and once Gatineau goes into lockdown after Xmas the numbers will likely rise in Ottawa. That will not be because of anything the Premiers of Quebec or Ontario did or didn’t do. It will be because people refuse to follow the restrictions that are in place.
 
anne25 said:
I hear there is a big meeting today. In any case, I put the most of the blame on those people who believe the present restrictions don’t apply to them.

Right now Ottawa’s numbers have been pretty steady averaging 35-50 new cases per day but given Christmas week and once Gatineau goes into lockdown after Xmas the numbers will likely rise in Ottawa. That will not be because of anything the Premiers of Quebec or Ontario did or didn’t do. It will be because people refuse to follow the restrictions that are in place.
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DoFo could probably be a little more aggressive - they wait until things are bad before locking down. So take like Waterloo Region, they basically wait until the spread gets bad enough to lock down, instead of locking down pre-emptively to keep things down.

But yeah, it probably doesn't really matter either way, since it's the yahoos who aren't following the rules that are ruining it, so unless if a premier actually bring in rules with teeth, things will continue in the path they're on.
 
Bus loads of people from Windsor and Toronto have been coming to the Sarnia-Lambton area to shop for Christmas. Suddenly, our numbers are starting to go up.
 
manny said:
Don't mean to be offensive, but why would anyone from Toronto take a bus to Sarnia to go shopping?
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You are not being offensive, I agree, we have been saying that as well. In the summer we were busy on weekends because of Torontonians coming to use the various beaches. But Sarnia in the winter, no thank you.

They were all going to London originally but now they are in red so they cannot.

Sarnia, Chatham are the only areas left in yellow in southern Ontario.
 
anne25 said:
I hear there is a big meeting today. In any case, I put the most of the blame on those people who believe the present restrictions don’t apply to them.

Right now Ottawa’s numbers have been pretty steady averaging 35-50 new cases per day but given Christmas week and once Gatineau goes into lockdown after Xmas the numbers will likely rise in Ottawa. That will not be because of anything the Premiers of Quebec or Ontario did or didn’t do. It will be because people refuse to follow the restrictions that are in place.
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and when people refuse to abide by public health restrictions, leading to uncontrolled spread of a deadly disease, citizens like me expect their governments to do something about it.
 
Wayward DP said:
there's this pandemic thing going on
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Haven't heard of it.

But aren't outlet malls and such in Toronto still open? I'm not saying that's good shopping, but (not to be too judgemental) if you're the type of person who will take a three hour bus ride to go Christmas shopping, you probably like outlet malls.

I don't live in the area, so not actually sure what is open in Toronto vs what is open in Sarnia.
 
Wayward DP said:
so where the **** is Dougie these days? shit keeps getting worse in ON and the guy is.... ? staggering incompetence and negligence by his government recently. seem to be trying the American approach of 'mostly ignore it'. if I was living in Ontario I would be livid.

and then of course there is Kenney, but I'm not even going to go there.
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hah

did he disappear for weeks like Kenney did?
 
worm said:
hah

did he disappear for weeks like Kenney did?
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in all fairness I pay more attention to what is happening in the Maritimes covid-wise than in ON, but I've seen a few 'new case numbers of 2,000' days and spoke to some family and friends in the province and then thought to myself... when was the last time we've heard from Dougie?

but he sure seems to be hiding out hoping this will pass, instead of doing what he knows is required to deal with it.
 
Wayward DP said:
in all fairness I pay more attention to what is happening in the Maritimes covid-wise than in ON, but I've seen a few 'new case numbers of 2,000' days and spoke to some family and friends in the province and then thought to myself... when was the last time we've heard from Dougie?

but he sure seems to be hiding out hoping this will pass, instead of doing what he knows is required to deal with it.
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seems like ontario is going more the region/city route in dealing with it
but that does not actually make much sense there

in AB it might where the only 2 urban centres are 3 hours apart with one stop for gas between the 2
 
worm said:
seems like ontario is going more the region/city route in dealing with it
but that does not actually make much sense there

in AB it might where the only 2 urban centres are 3 hours apart with one stop for gas between the 2
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I mean I'm open to provinces figuring out the best way for them to combat the virus. My issue is that the regional approach being used in ON at present is clearly ineffective. At some point the measures you take need to demonstrate tangible results, and if they don't, you need to adapt the measures. ON seems like they made their plan and have washed their hands of the need for anything further, like adaption.

And yeah, the regional lockdowns are clearly totally ineffective. I get the sentiment behind getting through xmas (and ignoring the virus until afterwards) but I just cannot support it.
 
Wayward DP said:
in all fairness I pay more attention to what is happening in the Maritimes covid-wise than in ON, but I've seen a few 'new case numbers of 2,000' days and spoke to some family and friends in the province and then thought to myself... when was the last time we've heard from Dougie?

but he sure seems to be hiding out hoping this will pass, instead of doing what he knows is required to deal with it.
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He seems to have a press conference most days.
 
Wayward DP said:
I mean I'm open to provinces figuring out the best way for them to combat the virus. My issue is that the regional approach being used in ON at present is clearly ineffective. At some point the measures you take need to demonstrate tangible results, and if they don't, you need to adapt the measures. ON seems like they made their plan and have washed their hands of the need for anything further, like adaption.

And yeah, the regional lockdowns are clearly totally ineffective. I get the sentiment behind getting through xmas (and ignoring the virus until afterwards) but I just cannot support it.
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Seriously, when you have headlines like this:
Waterloo Region staying in red zone, but regional officials say lack of compliance means more restrictions are all but unavoidable.

It makes you wonder if the people at the top care. If everyone knows that things aren't working, should have the power to go right to the stricter set before you get more people dying from this rather than wait to some arbitrary threshold.
 
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