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WellPlayed said:
I wouldn't be surprised to see Trump and his admin start beating this drum constantly until our election. They know being connected to or endorsed by Trump is toxic in Canada, so start saying you'd rather it was Carney to try to get your actual man in PeePee.

Carney is going to have navigate this carefully. Snubbing Trump to start his PM tour is a good start.
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Yeah, that was honestly the first thing I thought of when I saw that comment from Trump. MAGA-world has been all-in on Poilievre for at least a couple of years now (Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan & Elon have all pumped his tires on multiple occasions), so they can’t be happy to see him crashing and burning like this.

Particularly if a competent and formidable opponent to Trumpism ends up getting a majority mandate for the next four years, instead of an unqualified lightweight who’s on the same ideological wavelength as them and likely to bend over for Trump at every opportunity.

So they’re going to do everything they possibly can to hurt Carney and help Poilievre. And possibly in coordination with Team Poilievre as well. This is just the start.
 
PPC picking up all the Maple Magas and becoming a legit party would be perfect. Split the right, Liberals absorb the carcass of the NDP, nut bag right gives up political influence for a generation.

Although something about the PPC becoming a legit party makes me a tad anxious.
 
Libs should lock in on PP's sudden turn against Trump as well. Will be pretty easy to show how he's just panic chasing polls and has no principles.

When this whole trade war annexation thing started his initial response was "Gee I sure would love to get one of those big Tesla factories mister Musk. How far do we need to bend over for one of those?"
 
WellPlayed said:
PPC picking up all the Maple Magas and becoming a legit party would be perfect. Split the right, Liberals absorb the carcass of the NDP, nut bag right gives up political influence for a generation.

Although something about the PPC becoming a legit party makes me a tad anxious.
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CPC is already two midgets in a trench coat. I keep saying it, but Alberta conservatives and Ontario conservatives are not the same thing. When Ontario got their guy as party leader it was a corporate lawyer who served honourably in the military, educated at the Royal Military College who was a red Tory by Alberta standards. That is pretty much the perfect Ontario conservative candidate. Had to walk back some socially moderate positions for the sake of party unity, etc. When Alberta gets their pick, it's a Preston Manning conveyor belt creation. University -> "political consultant -> Parachuted federal candidate into a safe riding in AB/Sask -> Party Leader
 
axlsalinger said:

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If I had to bet, I'm going to say that Carney's strategy with Trump is to 8 mile him. He's going to take everything Trump has been saying about us, and address them before ever speaking to him. The lies and bullshit are always based off of a small kernel of truth. Oh, we sell too much to America? Cool, we've agreed to start selling more to everyone else so we can reduce our exports in your direction. We can't defend ourselves from China and Russia in the arctic? Cool, we're increasing defence spending with a focus on the arctic and deepened ties with other militaries so that it's not on America to help protect us. Fentanyl? Yeah, I agree that it's a weapon of mass destruction (lol) and we've beefed up policing efforts against it's manufacture and transportation here in the country.
 
MindzEye said:
If I had to bet, I'm going to say that Carney's strategy with Trump is to 8 mile him. He's going to take everything Trump has been saying about us, and address them before ever speaking to him. The lies and bullshit are always based off of a small kernel of truth. Oh, we sell too much to America? Cool, we've agreed to start selling more to everyone else so we can reduce our exports in your direction. We can't defend ourselves from China and Russia in the arctic? Cool, we're increasing defence spending with a focus on the arctic and deepened ties with other militaries so that it's not on America to help protect us. Fentanyl? Yeah, I agree that it's a weapon of mass destruction (lol) and we've beefed up policing efforts against it's manufacture and transportation here in the country.
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that's all well and good but i hope underlying it all is a realization that Trump would rather partner with Russia on everything than Nato countries.

thankfully, Carney's world tour so far has been a precision-bombing run lining up a new US-less NATO world order for us, so i think he understands the stakes.

i know many think we have to bend over and take it from trump but i don't think those people understand the reality of what's going on.

the ONLY option here is to legit built a CAN-AU-UK-EURO bloq on every possible level. that it the ONLY way our economies can possibly have enough leverage in the new trumpworld global order.
 
WellPlayed said:
PPC picking up all the Maple Magas and becoming a legit party would be perfect. Split the right, Liberals absorb the carcass of the NDP, nut bag right gives up political influence for a generation.

Although something about the PPC becoming a legit party makes me a tad anxious.
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The Liberals should have been funneling dark money toward the PPC in riding with tight races between the CPC and Liberals to split the vote.
 
zeke said:
I'm looking forward to when some reporters realize that in the new world order they don't need to just stenograph - that when Rubio says something like he said, they can just ask him straight out if he realizes he's declaring war on us.
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would be a nice change, yah
 
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