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Pwner said:

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This is why when there was that brief period where Doug was suggesting the US was not worth negotiating with, I gave him credit. Since then he’s also backed off and sorta suggested they can be reasoned with and I just think that’s super fucking naive.

Think it was the right thing for Carney to say we’re not even talking to you til you stfu about 51st state stuff.
 
hockeylover said:
This is why when there was that brief period where Doug was suggesting the US was not worth negotiating with, I gave him credit. Since then he’s also backed off and sorta suggested they can be reasoned with and I just think that’s super fucking naive.

Think it was the right thing for Carney to say we’re not even talking to you til you stfu about 51st state stuff.
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All of our maga lite politicians were big Trump fans until 3 months ago. All of the cruelty, stupidity, corruption, authoritarianism...none of it was disqualifying in their eyes. Dude didn't hatch out of a fucking egg in January, someone who had him entirely wrong on January 19 was unfit to deal with him on January 20.
 
for the people who say we should negotiate, my response is simply, 'to what end?'

we already have a free trade agreement with the US, which was negotiated by their current President, that that very same President is steadfastly ignoring. so why would we think that this time he would honour the agreement? he has a lifetime's worth of not honouring agreements already, too.

so just, why? how would we come out ahead? I'm open to a logical explanation but I haven't heard it...
 
WellPlayed said:
Big tough Canada First Conservatives want to cave to daddy Trump and are the least likely to suck up any inconvenience or hardship. Shocker.
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All Cons are Quislings who would gladly trade sovereignty in order not to be inconvenienced. Of course, they rationalize their selfishness by saying shit like "We're just a US vassal state anyway" or "There's nothing we can do about it so why bother?" but the real reason is because they aren't prepared to take one for the team. They'll root for Team Canada at the 4 Nations or the Olympics, but don't ask them to sacrifice anything for it like cancel their next trip to Disneyworld or their next shopping junket to an outlet mall south of the border.
 
Wayward DP said:
for the people who say we should negotiate, my response is simply, 'to what end?'

we already have a free trade agreement with the US, which was negotiated by their current President, that that very same President is steadfastly ignoring. so why would we think that this time he would honour the agreement? he has a lifetime's worth of not honouring agreements already, too.

so just, why? how would we come out ahead? I'm open to a logical explanation but I haven't heard it...
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I asked this when Preston and co. were praising Doug for getting a meeting and was told something like “talking is good!! how can you resolve anything without talking!!” and that I was falling for propaganda so I dunno.
 
Yeah, there's really nothing to talk about. The US can either lift the tariffs or get tariffed in return. A tariff war is about who blinks first. It's not going to be Canada so long as Carney is in charge.
 
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