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At this point I am very skeptical of the polls after the US election.

If the results of the Canadian election are way off of what the polls are predicting, it's pretty clear that while they may capture an accurate snapshot of people that bother to respond to them, they in no way reflect the opinions of those who don't answer.
 
At this point I am very skeptical of the polls after the US election.

If the results of the Canadian election are way off of what the polls are predicting, it's pretty clear that while they may capture an accurate snapshot of people that bother to respond to them, they in no way reflect the opinions of those who don't answer.


That's been my take forever.
 
At this point I am very skeptical of the polls after the US election.

If the results of the Canadian election are way off of what the polls are predicting, it's pretty clear that while they may capture an accurate snapshot of people that bother to respond to them, they in no way reflect the opinions of those who don't answer.

Weren’t the US polls accurate last November
 
Weren’t the US polls accurate last November

Close enough, yeah. They had Kamala's support nailed, but were off on Trump's by 2.5%. Overall, aggregate polling was off by about 3% which I'd argue is a pretty bad result (the point of aggregating is to be more accurate than individual polling MoE's, not to allow it the same ~3% margin as acceptable).

If the aggregate polling (Liberals +5) were as wrong as the US election was (Liberal +2) it would still be really close to a Liberal majority because of that pesky old vote efficiency issue the Conservatives have.
 
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Fwiw, here's where I struggle with Mainstreet's results if anyone gives a fuck.

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This is wildly, wildly out of step with PP's favourability results in any other poll or tracker I've seen.

Angus Reid, who will never be mistaken as a pro Liberal pollster currently has PP's favourability at 36% and it's never been higher than 40% in the history of their tracking. His unfavourable rating is at 60%, an all time high, as of their mid month update.

There has either been a massive shift in PP's favourability that only Mainstreet has picked up on, or they're oversampling the only demo he's popular in, men from 18-45

Also fwiw, Mainstreet's Mark Carney favourability is also a major outlier compared to other trackers/polls. They have Carney at 48-47 where he's commonly running +15 net rating according to everyone else.
 
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