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LeafGm said:
Ugh. I guess I get the pragmatism behind this, and Carney’s attempt to normalize relations with China.

Really tough spot to be in for our relationship with both India & China and their three billion inhabitants to continue to be in the shitter at the same time the United States has ceased to be a stable ally and partner.

I still hate it though—in particular where India and Modi are concerned.
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I don't know how ideological a "middle power" whose power is entirely economic and soft political, can afford to be right now.

From Carney's standpoint, he has a pretty clear economic mandate from the electorate, but I don't know how much patience voters are going to have for anything resembling an aggressive foreign policy (within the Canadian context, ofc)
 
MindzEye said:
I don't know how ideological a "middle power" whose power is entirely economic and soft political, can afford to be right now.

From Carney's standpoint, he has a pretty clear economic mandate from the electorate, but I don't know how much patience voters are going to have for anything resembling an aggressive foreign policy (within the Canadian context, ofc)
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Yeah, I get it. Even if I don’t like it.

Rightfully telling Xi and Modi to get bent over their bullshit fuckery with Canada would be satisfying, but it’s a luxury that we can’t really afford at the moment.
 
mbow30 said:
It’s just a tweet summarizing his priorities with a stock photo.

Today they announced legislation to help harmonize where there are competing provincial standards (right now you might have to produce a widget to different standards in different provinces - idea behind today’s announcement is to only require that one standard be met). They also announced legislation to recognize licensees and certifications cross border (eg right now some regulated trades have different standards so somebody who requires a certification in Alberta might not require certification to do the same work in Ontario).
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Why not tweet about the legislation then?
 
MindzEye said:
I don't know how ideological a "middle power" whose power is entirely economic and soft political, can afford to be right now.

From Carney's standpoint, he has a pretty clear economic mandate from the electorate, but I don't know how much patience voters are going to have for anything resembling an aggressive foreign policy (within the Canadian context, ofc)
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Yeah, rock and a hard place and all
 
Maybe I’m really missing something. Isn’t that what they did?

And added a random photo of him in office. Isn’t that pretty normal?
 

View: https://x.com/markjcarney/status/1931038981707211168?s=46&t=slvKDnX1n9ri7D4jpSVVzA

The text of the readout from their call:

Today, the Prime Minister, Mark Carney, spoke with the Prime Minister of India, Narendra Modi.

The two leaders discussed the longstanding relationship between Canada and India, including deep people-to-people ties and significant commercial links. Importantly, there was agreement to continued law enforcement dialogue and discussions addressing security concerns.

Prime Minister Carney extended an invitation to Prime Minister Modi to attend Canada’s 2025 G7 Leaders’ Summit in Kananaskis, Alberta.

Prime Minister Carney and Prime Minister Modi agreed to remain in contact and looked forward to meeting at the G7 Leaders’ Summit later this month.
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The part about “continued law enforcement dialogue” and “discussions addressing security concerns” sounds an awful lot like a sop to Modi’s position that all Khalistani Sikh separatists are terrorists and that Canada should be cracking down on them.
 
Wayward DP said:
Yeah, rock and a hard place and all
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What a world looks like when of the 3 biggest powers on the planet, 1 is in an evolving state of proto fascism, one is authoritarian communism/cult of personality regime, and the 3rd is a set of fragmented democracies that got to spent decade off shoring their hard power to the now proto fascists.

Our role right now is to make as many friends as we can stomache and do everything we can to nudge and assist the Europeans to shake off the rust and get in the game, while at the same time building whatever counts as a relationship with the lunatics to the south of us, while hoping they sort their whole growing authoritarianism issue out before our sovereignty is eventually threatened.

Would be nice to just get nukes so that we would be allowed to have strong opinions on basic philosophical shit that's important to us, but what power we have is/was grounded in our membership and contributions to a world order that is at minimum on life support. Re shuffle the deck outside that paradigm and we're a cold democratic gas station whose best protection and greatest weakness become geographic.
 
LeafGm said:

View: https://x.com/markjcarney/status/1931038981707211168?s=46&t=slvKDnX1n9ri7D4jpSVVzA

The text of the readout from their call:




The part about “continued law enforcement dialogue” and “discussions addressing security concerns” sounds an awful lot like a sop to Modi’s position that all Khalistani Sikh separatists are terrorists and that Canada should be cracking down on them.
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That's one interpretation of it....another of course is that the laws we were talking about were related to espionage and murder.

Vague is vague though, choose your own adventure.
 
MindzEye said:
What a world looks like when of the 3 biggest powers on the planet, 1 is in an evolving state of proto fascism, one is authoritarian communism/cult of personality regime, and the 3rd is a set of fragmented democracies that got to spent decade off shoring their hard power to the now proto fascists.

Our role right now is to make as many friends as we can stomache and do everything we can to nudge and assist the Europeans to shake off the rust and get in the game, while at the same time building whatever counts as a relationship with the lunatics to the south of us, while hoping they sort their whole growing authoritarianism issue out before our sovereignty is eventually threatened.

Would be nice to just get nukes so that we would be allowed to have strong opinions on basic philosophical shit that's important to us, but what power we have is/was grounded in our membership and contributions to a world order that is at minimum on life support. Re shuffle the deck outside that paradigm and we're a cold democratic gas station whose best protection and greatest weakness become geographic.
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It's actually worse than that. You had two of the three approaching collapse while the third, despite it's troubles, could've just kept what it was doing & see the other two eventually fall off the cliff (one by the quagmire in Ukraine & the other economically). China basically got a lifeline with it reaping the benefits of all their recent trade deals (eg., oil from us). Imperial Russia? Got who they wanted in DC.
 
thebeaverton.com

Carney limits G7 guests to one assassination each

OTTAWA – After inviting Indian PM Narendra Modi Prime Minister Mark Carney issued strict rules for the upcoming G7 meeting in Kananaskis, Alberta, limiting assassinations to one per guest nation. “The Prime Minister understands it’s not fair if only one country gets to do a murder in Canada,”...
thebeaverton.com thebeaverton.com
 
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