Foligno was a 33yr old winger who'd scored at a 15gl/37pt pace the 3yrs before we traded for him.
Jenner is a 30yr old center who's scored at a 31/54pt pace the last 3yrs.
I do agree that they should prioritize a top tier d. But then one may not be available. Jenner for 3 playoff runs isn't a bad option and wouldn't prevent them from grabbing a d in the next year or two at that aav.
It addresses a need for the next 3 playoffs without deploying much cap space. Not sure I see much downside unless you're trading a bunch of quality assets.
I think the point is (mine at least), sure, get him if you want, but pay the price you would for a third liner, not a first liner. This three years of playoff term you keep mentioning is too enticing to you that you’re forgetting the talent level it’s attached to.I do agree that they should prioritize a top tier d. But then one may not be available. Jenner for 3 playoff runs isn't a bad option and wouldn't prevent them from grabbing a d in the next year or two at that aav.
It addresses a need for the next 3 playoffs without deploying much cap space. Not sure I see much downside unless you're trading a bunch of quality assets.
Yes to the first part, shame on you for the second part.Yes, having the guy with two goals and four points in his last 20 playoff games for three playoff runs sure would be sweet.
Would go a long way towards making up for the fact that we no longer have Pierre Engvall and his playoff production.
2nd line center is kind of a big piece. If you think he's a 3rd line center... Well that's fine too. Still a big piece and often difficult to address. And he makes less that what a good 3c would typically cost. Not unlike getting top 4 d McCabe for 3 playoffs at 2m.I think the point is (mine at least), sure, get him if you want, but pay the price you would for a third liner, not a first liner. This three years of playoff term you keep mentioning is too enticing to you that you’re forgetting the talent level it’s attached to.
I’ve said from the start that he’s a capable third liner, and I’m fine if they got him for that role. But that’s not something I trade away a package that should get a top pair D or first line winger. That package is worth more than what we paid for ROR, so why would we ever pay that for Jenner?2nd line center is kind of a big piece. If you think he's a 3rd line center... Well that's fine too. Still a big piece and often difficult to address. And he makes less that what a good 3c would typically cost. Not unlike getting top 4 d McCabe for 3 playoffs at 2m.
Of course it depends on what they'd have to give up, but pretending he's some 4th line scrub is quite ignorant.
The three year-split is a fun bit of spin here, considering the past two seasons were him scoring far above his career norms while getting a lot of ice-time and opportunity on a godawful team.
This very mediocre season he’s having this year is far more in line with the kind of production you can usually expect from him.
And he has only a handful of PP points to show for it. So maybe that’s the reason to stick to EV?Jenner gets less EV TOI than Tavares, so he's not getting forcefed minutes.
He is getting way more PP time there than he would here, like every other target would, which is why i try to stick to EV production.
Someone’s starting to wake up and smell the foligno.Last year: 1.49 p/60
This year: 1.25 p/60
Andrew Peeke has more p/60 than him this year. I'm not sure I love where this is trending. On-ice s% a little low this year so definitely unlucky but yeah, feels like a 3rd liner not a 2nd. And trending the wrong way heading into his 30s.
Still not against him but I'm keeping Minten and would pay for retention too.