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No Excuses No Limits! The mother fucking goddamn season thread

note that even if we trade Liljegren, we still have to trade/waive one forward at least.
 
Two things from that clip,

1. Willy for C
2. Marner isn’t as big of a sensitive, social media bitch as he’s portrayed otherwise it would have leaked a long time ago, multiple times, that Willy wasn’t talking to him.
 
Liljegren (25.4, #17 '17, $3.0 x 2 then UFA): 6'1, 201, 5.2ht/60 (7.0 plyff), 4.9bk/60 (2.7 plyff)
Timmins (26.0, #32 '17, $1.1 x 1 then RFA): 6'3" 213, 3.6ht/60 (7.8 plyff), 3.4bk/60 (3.7 plyff)

Career

Liljegren (20-24): 196gms, 5v5 15:00 (-1.2dzs%), 56.0xgf% (+1.9rel), 0.46p1/60, 0.98p/60 --- 5v4 0:45, 2.53p1/60, 4.22p/60
Timmins (21-25): 91gms, 5v5 13:24 (-1.7dzs%), 57.6xgf% (+3.1rel), 0.54p1/60, 1.03p/60 --- 5v4 0:55, 2.93p1/60, 5.13p/60

Playoffs

Liljegren (22-24): 13gms, 14:53 (-4.3dzs%), 40.2xgf% (-9.0rel), 0.31p1/60, 0.31p/60 --- 5v4: 1:00, 0.00p1/60, 0.00p/60
Timmins (21-22): 12gms, 10:22 (-4.6dzs%), 51.7xgf% (+1.9rel), 0.00p1/60, 0.00p/60 --- 5v4: 0:04, 0.00p1/60, 0.00p/60



I never liked the idea of losing Timmins for nothing, especially without even giving him a shot.

And if Liljegren has any real trade value......
 
zeke said:
what makes me so angry about this is that all those years of Marleau and Tavares Leaderbeanery and they didn't bother to teach these kids the most basic part of leadership and playoffs performance.


View: https://x.com/yagersports/status/1842363189444428020

because, obviously, Marleau and Tavares don't know the first thing about winning.
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and Berube might be worth it if all he manages to do is convince these guys that playoffs hockey winning attitude is all about the OPPOSITE of whining and bitching.
 
zeke said:
Liljegren (25.4, #17 '17, $3.0 x 2 then UFA): 6'1, 201, 5.2ht/60 (7.0 plyff), 4.9bk/60 (2.7 plyff)
Timmins (26.0, #32 '17, $1.1 x 1 then RFA): 6'3" 213, 3.6ht/60 (7.8 plyff), 3.4bk/60 (3.7 plyff)

Career

Liljegren (20-24): 196gms, 5v5 15:00 (-1.2dzs%), 56.0xgf% (+1.9rel), 0.46p1/60, 0.98p/60 --- 5v4 0:45, 2.53p1/60, 4.22p/60
Timmins (21-25): 91gms, 5v5 13:24 (-1.7dzs%), 57.6xgf% (+3.1rel), 0.54p1/60, 1.03p/60 --- 5v4 0:55, 2.93p1/60, 5.13p/60

Playoffs

Liljegren (22-24): 13gms, 14:53 (-4.3dzs%), 40.2xgf% (-9.0rel), 0.31p1/60, 0.31p/60 --- 5v4: 1:00, 0.00p1/60, 0.00p/60
Timmins (21-22): 12gms, 10:22 (-4.6dzs%), 51.7xgf% (+1.9rel), 0.00p1/60, 0.00p/60 --- 5v4: 0:04, 0.00p1/60, 0.00p/60



I never liked the idea of losing Timmins for nothing, especially without even giving him a shot.

And if Liljegren has any real trade value......
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Dom's Net Rating always has them as similarly really good too - Lilly finished last year at +7 and Timmins as +6, although obviously those are in sheltered roles.
 
One thing to note in that face off series...the camera clearly catches mcdavid shaking hands with Lorentz.....it's all gonna happen this way.

I also think they keep Kampf and make a package of Lilly and krok. If you get someone really good you may have to throw in a Holmberg.

Yes Boone is a good pick but I would love to see like a konecny also I could see Berube looking back at some players he liked in at. Louis
 
fergy57 said:
Have a hard time seeing Columbus trade their captain after the whole Gadreau tragedy. Just no good optics there if they did.
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Exactly what I'm thinking... Jenner and Monahan trades will wait til next offseason or at the earliest the deadline.

Columbus wants/needs stability after the murder or gaudreau
 
zeke said:
and Berube might be worth it if all he manages to do is convince these guys that playoffs hockey winning attitude is all about the OPPOSITE of whining and bitching.
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Yep. Compare that clip to this one of Sid in game 6 of the 2016 finals. As soon as the bench starts whining or getting down on each other he shuts it down.

And it’s not like it’s some young kid he’s putting in line. It’s Letang.


View: https://www.instagram.com/p/B_Vd8SCFhES/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
 
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PreSeason 5v5

Knies 4gms 10:57 61.3% 2.06ap/60 --- Matthews 2gms 12:53 81.4% 0.00ap/60 --- Marner 3gms 12:46 74.6% 1.56ap/60
McMann 4gms 12:18 57.5% 0.00ap/60 --- Domi 3gms 12:29 64.5% 0.00ap/60 --- Nylander 3gms 9:11 50.2% 0.00ap/60
Robertson 4gms 11:00 59.6% 4.09ap/60 --- Tavares 3gms 11:02 43.2% 1.81ap/60 --- Pacioretty 4gms 11:20 56.5% 5.11ap/60
Lorentz 4gms 10:19 46.5% 1.45ap/60 --- Kampf 4gms 12:09 45.8% 0.61ap/60 --- Reaves 3gms 10:06 34.8% 1.98ap/60
Dewar 0gms 0:00 00.0% 0.00ap/60 --- Holmberg 4gms 10:49 74.5% 1.39ap/60 --- Jarnkrok 2gms 9:52 61.6% 0.00ap/60

Cowan 5gms 10:54 42.4% 0.00ap/60 --- Quillan 4gms 10:48 25.0% 0.00ap/60 --- Grebenkin 4gms 9:15 32.3% 0.00ap/60
Steeves 2gms 9:32 48.1% 3.14ap/60 --- Pare 2gms 9:15 42.6% 0.00ap/60 --- Nylander 3gms 10:04 22.7% 0.00ap/60
Hirvonen 2gms 8:14 57.8% 0.00ap/60 --- Shaw 1gms 9:10 6.0% 0.00ap/60 --- Abruzzese 1gms 8:22 12.0% 0.00ap/60
Tverberg 1gms 6:54 34.1% 0.00ap/60 --- Minten 0gms 0:00 00.0% 0.00ap/60



Rielly 3gms 19:09 56.6% 0.52ap/60 --- Tanev 3gms 17:37 56.9% 1.71ap/60
OEL 3gms 15:10 60.3% 0.00ap/60 --- McCabe 2gms 16:55 54.6% 0.00ap/60
Benoit 4gms 12:04 33.6% 0.00ap/60 --- Liljegren 3gms 13:51 43.6% 0.00ap/60
Rifai 3gms 12:08 44.6% 0.00ap/60 --- Timmins 3gms 13:12 42.3% 0.00ap/60
Hakanpaa 0gms 0:00 00.0% 0.00ap/60

Mermis 1gms 17:52 58.3% 0.00ap/60 --- Myers 4gms 12:20 45.7% 0.00ap/60
Kokkonen 2gms 13:40 30.8% 0.00ap/60 --- Niemela 1gms 14:30 60.9% 0.00ap/60
Webber 2gms 13:00 31.2% 0.00ap/60 --- Mattinen 2gms 13:00 27.0% 0.00ap/60



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