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No Excuses No Limits! The mother fucking goddamn season thread

That was before he put up a massive season and the cap rising more than had in the previous several years.

"massive season"

T36th in goals, T47th in points. 8th highest paid forward.

The 47th highest paid forward in the league is a bit of a cautionary tale here. Stamkos signed 4yr x 8 last summer at 34 yrs old and went from putting up 40G/81PT to on pace for 24G/49PTS.

Walk him to free agency. Let someone else make the mistake. This is still a guy with a dreadful playoff track record for us. Easily the worst of the big 4.
 
what does having a good season have to do with anything? I was assured playing in toronto was the most important thing in the world for him and his family.
 
"massive season"

T36th in goals, T47th in points. 8th highest paid forward.

The 47th highest paid forward in the league is a bit of a cautionary tale here. Stamkos signed 4yr x 8 last summer at 34 yrs old and went from putting up 40G/81PT to on pace for 24G/49PTS.

Walk him to free agency. Let someone else make the mistake. This is still a guy with a dreadful playoff track record for us. Easily the worst of the big 4.
Massive vs expectations (yes, moving the goal post here).
 
Massive vs expectations (yes, moving the goal post here).

Sure, but you have to pay him for what you think he's going to do, not for what he's done. He was already overpaid for what he's done, including this season.

The last time we justified a bunch of overspends because the cap was going up in the future, we hamstrung overselves for 5 years. If we're taking risks, let's do it on guys in their 20's.
 
Sure, but you have to pay him for what you think he's going to do, not for what he's done. He was already overpaid for what he's done, including this season.

The last time we justified a bunch of overspends because the cap was going up in the future, we hamstrung overselves for 5 years. If we're taking risks, let's do it on guys in their 20's.
3x4 I was fine with... I'd imagine his ask now is 3x7.

The problem is we are going to acquire an equally old but worse version making similar money.
 
how can it be a difficult signing i was assured he could NEVER play anywhere other than toronto cuz his kids and shit.


What you and ME were repeatedly assured was that there was no way in hell either Tavares or Mitch would waive their NMC’s & be traded before the end of their contracts.

So not sure why you’re trying to take a victory lap on that one.
 
What you and ME were repeatedly assured was that there was no way in hell either Tavares or Mitch would waive their NMC’s & be traded before the end of their contracts.

So not sure why you’re trying to take a victory lap on that one.

sorry what exactly was so important that he would never waive again now that he's apparently willing to leave without a second thought?
 
sorry what exactly was so important that he would never waive again now that he's apparently willing to leave without a second thought?


To be clear, I’m not arguing that he currently wants to leave as a UFA.

And most of the proposals around trading Tavares revolved around making it clear to him the team wanted to move on and salary-dumping him to some shit team (or, at least, a team worse than the Leafs) that was willing to absorb his entire cap hit. Never heard a convincing argument why he’d consent to that instead of taking one last crack at winning here.

Also can’t imagine that the overwhelming majority of parents of young and/or school-aged children wouldn’t invoke trade protection if they have it, rather than suddenly uprooting them to a random destination, or having to live apart for months until the school year is done.
 
This team isn’t good enough to go all in. Been pretty average with bad coaching overlay. Only way the team goes deep is to get hasek level goaltending and a hot powerplay.

Might as well get a third goalie in the hopes of just riding the hottest one we have going and the best PP guy available.
 
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