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OT: American Politics

zeke said:
that's about as good as I was hoping.

not that i think veep debates matter much. hell i don't think prez debates mean much aside from special circumstances (i.e. the last two).
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think we were right about JD in the debate, and maybe even overestimated Walz, but luckily it seems like he and Kamala will emerge from this mostly unscathed. all you can ask for.
 
Waltz neither helped or hurt the campaign last night.

Last night though was a preview what would happen if Trump was a smarter man. The way Vance lied and made it sound convincing was something.

Now I think US will survive still. But make Vance 15 years older, with the state of the media, and lack of education in the electorate, I don't think democracy can survive down there.

Next four years, if Kamala wins, should be about patching up the loopholes and making all standard and common understandings parts of the US government into law.
 
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