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OT: American Politics

CTheBigPicture said:
Not everything is a conspiracy.

She had earned media after becoming unofficial nominee, then the DNC, then the debate, and now in the final three weeks, she is doing the shows with no further milestone coming up. Had she done 60 minutes while enjoying the post DNC bump, that interview would've gone to waste.

It's not really that complicated.
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It's not conspiracy. It's strategy. Same reason Biden campaigned from his basement in 2020.
 
thehabhater said:
So a government can ignore the constitution because they were "democratically elected"?
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Tf are you talking about?

I'm saying unelected "experts", who people grant no power over their life to, dictating personal freedoms is unconstitutional and undemocratic, yes.
 
FlyGuy said:
The people who were democratically elected by the people they represent.
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Sure, but who should they be listening to when crafting their opinions that turn into regulations and laws?

The point of representative democracy isn't just for the people to have a hand on the levers of power, direct democracy does that in a far superior manner but is a pretty shit system of organizing a society. A big part of the point of representative democracy in all of it's iterations is that it streamlines decision making and provides points that expertise and wisdom can coalesce around. If you're building a bridge for a town of 10,000 people, it's very difficult to have a handful of structural engineers properly educate 10,000 people as to why the bridge requires certain features to make sure it doesn't fall the fuck down. Much, much easier & more efficient to properly educate 10 people on a city council, or 1 regional representative in congress as to why.

The attack on expertise is such a weird, hypocritical, uneducated take on the function of society. You don't feel this way at all when you have a blocked pipe, you call a fucking plumber. Transmission shits the bed and you don't screech about big tranny conspiring to get you fired from your job because you can't get to work, you take the fucking car to a garage full of fucking experts to sort your problem out. More complicated problems require more specific expertise further and further away from your day to day scope of understanding. That's it, that's all.
 
FlyGuy said:
Hold up, the owner of X, who is actively campaigning for Trump, is in support of Trump??

HOLY SHIT.

Last time I checked, that's part of freedom. Unlike, idk, the government censoring stories and people who they disagree with or think is harmful to the regime.
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They are calling out the hypocricy.
 
MindzEye said:
Sure, but who should they be listening to when crafting their opinions that turn into regulations and laws?

The point of representative democracy isn't just for the people to have a hand on the levers of power, direct democracy does that in a far superior manner but is a pretty shit system of organizing a society. A big part of the point of representative democracy in all of it's iterations is that it streamlines decision making and provides points that expertise and wisdom can coalesce around. If you're building a bridge for a town of 10,000 people, it's very difficult to have a handful of structural engineers properly educate 10,000 people as to why the bridge requires certain features to make sure it doesn't fall the fuck down. Much, much easier & more efficient to properly educate 10 people on a city council, or 1 regional representative in congress as to why.

The attack on expertise is such a weird, hypocritical, uneducated take on the function of society. You don't feel this way at all when you have a blocked pipe, you call a fucking plumber. Transmission shits the bed and you don't screech about big tranny conspiring to get you fired from your job because you can't get to work, you take the fucking car to a garage full of fucking experts to sort your problem out. More complicated problems require more specific expertise further and further away from your day to day scope of understanding. That's it, that's all.
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Sure, but a bridge isn't a protected civil liberty being infringed on.

"This laptop thing is russian disinfo!!! Block/censor all stories!!!" - Misinformation (lol) Expert (lol)
"This super non-deadly virus is not transmitted if you have the vaccine!! Get the vaccine or your employer will have to fire you!!" -OSHA
 
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