Habsy
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But when he was head of the RNC he facilitated this decline. Sounds like buyers remorse to me. He's not wrong but where was this when he had a say?
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But when he was head of the RNC he facilitated this decline. Sounds like buyers remorse to me. He's not wrong but where was this when he had a say?
axlsalinger
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The party was a lot different when he was there. He's a good guy, though obviously there are some things he could/should have done differently back then. That applies to a lot of people, though. We are talking about now when the house is literally on fire and the non-imbecile Republicans are voting for RFK and Tulsi Gabbard and not doing a goddamn thing about Elon Musk.
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
I will get banned again soon, worry not.
Any black Republican has to do many, many moral and ethical leaps of faith to resist the urge to commit suicide out of shame.
Habsy
Not playing around anymore.
I ask you this though, how big an indictment on the Democrat Party is this when otherwise somewhat reasonable people voted Trump?
The Dems thought as I did in that no reasonably cognitive person could vote for this douche again. Well they did.
Democrats need to get their shit together and stop infighting when there's a serious existential problem at the door.
The polls were telling them Kamala was a dud yet they did what the parties have always done for the past 200 years and force fed a weak candidate because they were VP.
The Dems thought as I did in that no reasonably cognitive person could vote for this douche again. Well they did.
Democrats need to get their shit together and stop infighting when there's a serious existential problem at the door.
The polls were telling them Kamala was a dud yet they did what the parties have always done for the past 200 years and force fed a weak candidate because they were VP.
Habsy
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What got me is blacks turned out for Trump higher than any previous Republican candidate. The Dems are on the way to losing them entirely.
axlsalinger
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Bleedsblue&white
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Also, the dems didn't use the Acme Brainwashing Package, an obvious subsidiary of Murdock and co.
Habsy
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And Musk. Who fancies himself the brains like Himmler.
How Groups Voted in 2020 | Roper Center for Public Opinion Research
TypeDemographicGroupBidenTrumpSEXMen484553Women525742RACEWhite674158African-American138712Hispanic
How Groups Voted in 2024 | Roper Center for Public Opinion Research
TypeDemographicGroupHarrisTrumpSEXMen474355Women535345RACEWhite714257African-American118613Hispanic
shows a 1 Percent drop from Biden to Harris and no increase to Trump. (EDIT:**** there was that 1% gain by Trump I misread****)
Also forgoes that Incumbent parties post Covid took it on the chin. Hispanic, Asians and other are the 3 groups that swung the most radically.
Just posting as I see this talking point and it's not wrong but it's less right then perceived.
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axlsalinger
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Habsy
Not playing around anymore.
Less than perceived? He got the highest a pub ever got. That's a fact. A scary one.vsHow Groups Voted in 2020 | Roper Center for Public Opinion Research
TypeDemographicGroupBidenTrumpSEXMen484553Women525742RACEWhite674158African-American138712Hispanicropercenter.cornell.edu
How Groups Voted in 2024 | Roper Center for Public Opinion Research
TypeDemographicGroupHarrisTrumpSEXMen474355Women535345RACEWhite714257African-American118613Hispanic
shows a 1 Percent drop from Biden to Harris and no increase to Trump. (EDIT:**** there was that 1% gain by Trump I misread****)
Also forgoes that Incumbent parties post Covid took it on the chin. Hispanic, Asians and other are the 3 groups that swung the most radically.
Just posting as I see this talking point and it's not wrong but it's less right then perceived.
Worrying about a group you lost 1% Vs the several groups you lost 5+% is stupidity bar none. Should you look into it sure.. should it be your primary source -No.
Remember this election Not electorally but by popular vote was even CLOSER then the 2020 election
77,302,580 vs 75,017,613
Biden Vs Trump
81,283,501 vs 74,223,975
I'll cite these numbers if needed. But even if off by a million each way against me, my point HOLDS.
But yes for the second time this century a Republican president won the popular vote.. (Sorry side track)
I'm far more concerned with the slide with Hispanic voters then the African American . Especially with their rate of growing percentage of the populace.
Remember this election Not electorally but by popular vote was even CLOSER then the 2020 election
77,302,580 vs 75,017,613
Biden Vs Trump
81,283,501 vs 74,223,975
I'll cite these numbers if needed. But even if off by a million each way against me, my point HOLDS.
But yes for the second time this century a Republican president won the popular vote.. (Sorry side track)
I'm far more concerned with the slide with Hispanic voters then the African American . Especially with their rate of growing percentage of the populace.
Habsy
Not playing around anymore.
Worrying? Naw. Telltale sign? Yep.
mbow30
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Bleedsblue&white
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I think it's cute the way you're using numbers like they matter.
This election was fixed. He was way too loud about fraud, that's one of his obvious tells.
All the skullduggery going on in gop states leading up to the vote?
C'mon, it's what we thought it was.
This election was fixed. He was way too loud about fraud, that's one of his obvious tells.
All the skullduggery going on in gop states leading up to the vote?
C'mon, it's what we thought it was.
Bleedsblue&white
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Just wanted to add, since I'm going to embrace the tin-foil, that I am pretty sure the dems (who are supported by the same big money as the gop) were to some degree complicit in this.
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
I've been meaning to read his book for a bit, I've seen a few of his videos. I agree with him philosophically on a bunch of stuff, especially wealth inequality (I've never heard him reference Piketty, but we're all stealing from his work when we talk about the modern impacts of inequality and what it means going forward). Specific to this video, yeah I think he's right that Labour in the UK is fucking cooked. Starmer is already blaming people on benefits for some of the problems with the country when inequality is the whole game right now. Small turnings of the knobs isn't going to change the economic outcomes for everyone else outside the top 0.1% until the distribution of wealth issue is handled, and that's an issue Labour seems allergic to even speak about, it's something Kamala caught the flu after talking about early in the election that likely cost her the election.
