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OT: American Politics

Leafyblue said:
Thanks for that. I'm hoping he chimes in on Canada someday.
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I expect he would say similar about the Carney Liberals as he's saying about Starmer's Labour tbh. The economic philosophy is probably going to be somewhat similar, but with different starting and pressure points. We don't have the own goal brexit head winds, but we do have significant trade challenges with our biggest export market none the less.

I just picked up Carney's book, as comfortable as I am with him being the right captain of the ship during a storm, I'm hoping to see a more Piketty-esque ethic on distribution in here but based on what I've seen of him before I'm not expecting it. I don't expect to see him stray economically left at all on the campaign trail though, I think the Liberals are in their own way as bad as the Democrats are regarding bold ideas and I just want to see him win. If all we get out of a Carney government is middle of the road economic & infrastructure stuff with items like national passenger rail expansion, a functioning national housing strategy, fixing military procurement, etc....I'm good with that. Can't expect revolutionary economic policy in the middle of a national emergency.
 
Carney doesn't need to be a Messiah. He just needs to not be Poilievre. Just like Harris just needed to win because the alternate was worse. And we now see just how awful the alternative can be. We can't let Pee-Pee near power because he's even dumber and pettier than Trump.
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
We can't let Pee-Pee near power because he's even dumber and pettier than Trump.
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blkngldbabe said:
I think the rub lies in your Douche in Charge could care less how it affects the country. It’s a huge flex to impress his buddy
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Perhaps. I think it would wake up the dormant population though. Trump is all about bravado and yes, many things he's tried. He wasn't successful in everything though.

Annexation to me is a bridge too far when you bring NATO into it. Also, you don't think Putin and Xi Jing Ping would gladly hand Canada advanced weaponry?

The real threat is economic. How that affects the USA will determine his support. Food here is still ridiculously high for the USA, if he goes too far with the tariffs, he'll lose support. Not that he cares sure but there's a lot of moving parts to this.
 
thehabhater said:
I just saw a commercial on tv pointing out that PP wants to bring US healthcare to Canada

That has to be a bridge too far even for the idiots out west.
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Don't be so sure. The idiots want a 2 tier system which smart people know is the thin edge of the wedge to full privatization.

Count, naturally, has no problem with for profit healthcare because he can afford it.
 
I posted a meme on FB with a quote from Kurt Vonnegut where he says that the US would go down as the first nation in history that didn't try to save itself because it wasn't cost effective.

This is the comment that Count posted to it...

"I wonder if Vonnegut's estate donates every penny it gets from royalties from his overrated novels."
 
Artnes said:

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Kind of a funny piece to read in a time capsule kind of a way. The entire thing ended up painfully wrong despite looking to be pretty close to getting ~2025 right as the likely end of Pax Americana.

- The US dollar durably remained the world reserve currency even through Trump 1. I think Trump 2 is going to be the signal for the rest of the world to look for other places to keep their money though. He likely defaults on some debt over the next few years as a punitive measure against China, or us, or the EU or whoever he's mad at on that day.

- The Chinese and Indian growth threats sure ended up overblown eh? The gap between the US GDP and Chinese GDP, today, is actually 2 Trillion larger than it was in 2010. India's has doubled since 2010, but so has Mexico's and a bunch of other developing economies.

- The US maintained a healthy technological edge, and all of those science PHD's did not infact go home (yet) as predicted. They largely stayed in the US and became green card holders and citizens. Thus is (was? fml) the power of free societies. People want to live in them, and aren't in a rush to leave them to go home to their autocracies. Leaked internal documents over the years have shown that the CCP assume that 50% of their best science graduates who leave for the US to get post grad degrees won't come home, but the value of getting the other 50% back from top US universities with western PHD's is so fucking high that the don't care that the other 50% bounce.

- Dependence on foreign oil causing collapse...lol, other than ours maybe, that turned out to not even be a thing. Not even close to being a thing.

- The debt!!! lol. Again, no one cared and no one will until this wrinkly orange nutsack eventually defaults on some of the debt to prove a point.


It's funny that so many seemingly plausible pathways to collapse were explored but none of them turned out even close to right, and the likeliest cause for the collapse today wasn't close to feasible, even just 6-10 years before catalysts came about. Reality star turned race baiting politician uses expanded base of wingnuts radicalized by social media and an international pandemic to throw the whole fucking thing away. None of that shit was on the bingo card in 2010.
 
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