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OT: American Politics

CH1 said:
Oh the sure. I think part of the reason the rules need to be relaxed is to allow more research.

I also have no problem with allowing someone with debilitating mental health problems to try it out.

It’s an interesting time right now because unlike psychedelics (and other drugs) which are controlled by the FDA or DEA, there’s a ton of unregulated peptides that the FDA can’t really crack down on.,, ie… if you market something as a Covid Cure, the FDA has no problem shutting you down but if you sell the same dodgy compound as ImmuneBoost, it’s a lot harder to get in trouble
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What if you sell it as a cock enhancer
 
Preston said:
Dr. Presto punching in.

I just learned what ibogaine is today and have decided to read the data on it.

1. It's not a cure
2. It's intriguing enough for further study but every single study I've seen from it is horribly designed, with no controlled efficacy data. All uncontrolled randomized unblinded studies, and I don't think I saw any say 80-90% in 1-2 doses anyway. That was a hallucinated stat. Or maybe misunderstood, 80-90% reduction in withdrawal symptoms. Still wrong and not true and can't be confirmed with that single poorly designed uncontrolled study, but that doesn't = cure.
3. Joe Rogan appears to have been tweeting about this drug for at least 15 years. Long lived obsession of his. He's done his own research longer than me, I'll give him that.
4. Claiming 80-90% cure rate for addiction is a wild ass claim and anything close to that effective would have been obvious and approved long ago.
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Ibogaine was also at the heart of one of the all time great American political stories - the campaign of 1972 democratic front runner ed Muskie was derailed after hunter thompson wrote an article in Rolling Stone musing that Muskie was using ibogaine, to explain a lifeless press tour by the candidate.
 
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