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OT: American Politics

MindzEye said:
My bigger concern is that in all of the reading on authoritarianism that I've done, 30-33% public support is considered the minimum necessary for the regime to continue holding power. I'm pretty sure that if push came to shove, the support for a single party Trump led system would be about 40%. He has just about everything in place to declare elections illegitimate and take over. I'm not sure there are any reliable guard rails left.
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Trump has already given enough signs that he will expect and accept a s successor.
 
zeke said:
it's a worldwide thing tho. best we can do is make every attempt to keep the truth alive. propaganda can work, but usually not forever.

there will always be an undemocratic element, whether they're witting (i.e. rich) or unwitting (memeslop eaters). It's just we're in a moment where they've perfected a certain brand of propaganda that's worked on just enough voters so far. And yeah, the corruption of the democracy played a big part in that. But even in this moment, they're still a distinct minority that's just learned how to game the system just enough.

but the wave can turn, even when it's lost - look at Hungary. hell, look at nazi germany.
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ChatGPT was correct

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The one caveat is that often really bad things happening is the cure for bad things happening — the rules based order based on human rights we recently took for granted happened after two world wars and a massive global economic depression
 
CH1 said:
The one caveat is that often really bad things happening is the cure for bad things happening — the rules based order based on human rights we recently took for granted happened after two world wars and a massive global economic depression
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And look at the time frame for all of that. . . .
 
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At the very least you have to expect that you can't trust what he has to say or that he'll follow through with something that benefits someone other than himself.
 
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