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OT: American Politics

People actually think it’s their right to freedom to contract COVID. Seriously, they’re arguing it’s their constitutional right to get sick and either live or die from it.
 
Habsy said:
I do not have the confidence that you do. What I’m reading here is almost like fait accomplis and that is what’s concerning me greatly.
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I wish I had that confidence, but I’m still part of the tiny minority on this board that’s almost 100% confident that Trump’s getting re-elected.
 
I actually saw a truck that had “if you’re not for Trump you’re not for America” on the rear window in handwritten marker yesterday. Tried to snap a pic but the light turned green too quickly.
 
Habsy said:
That’s where I am at.
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Yep. It’d be nice if the mostly Canadian, progressive, left-leaning denizens of a hockey message board were the ones actually voting on this in the end. But unfortunately, it’ll be Americans.

The one thing that would’ve convinced me that maybe he’d lose is if, somewhere along the way, facts or reality had started to matter among his base and the Republican Party in general.

But they’re as cultishly behind him as ever, even after the last 3-4 years. Which means his base will turn out for him, and any Republicans in government will pull out every dirty trick they can imagine to boost his chances.

And all this confident talk about Trump’s dismal polling and non-existent chances is definitely giving me flashbacks to 2016.
 
LeafGm said:
Yep. It’d be nice if the mostly Canadian, progressive, left-leaning denizens of a hockey message board were the ones actually voting on this in the end. But unfortunately, it’ll be Americans.

The one thing that would’ve convinced me that maybe he’d lose is if, somewhere along the way, facts or reality had started to matter among his base and the Republican Party in general.

But they’re as cultishly behind him as ever, even after the last 3-4 years. Which means his base will turn out for him, and any Republicans in government will pull out every dirty trick they can imagine to boost his chances.

And all this confident talk about Trump’s dismal polling and non-existent chances is definitely giving me flashbacks to 2016.
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I really have no idea what the outcome of the election will be and I don’t think it’s a slam dunk but it seems from the very very consistent poll numbers on almost every topic that the group you’re describing is only around 30-40%.

Which *should mean* that the Democrats have a decent path to victory - the numbers seem to be on their side at least. Whether they can actually pull it off I suppose is another thing entirely. But that’s pretty clearly why there’s desperate attempts by the GOP to suppress voting by mail etc.
 
I mean at this point it can't be far off from 50-50. All the data we've seen is very preliminary. It's too early to read much into it. I'd love to pretend the average American has a brain but the reality is they don't. So I'm not confident that it's close to a lock. Pretty sure most here aren't outside of ME.
 
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MindzEye said:
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as an aside, it’s truly sad that so much of the exaggerated caricatures that The Simpsons wrote as a silly joke came to pass. Nobody would bat an eye if that visual would be used by an NFL broadcast with “brought to you by MasterLock”
 
CH1 said:
as an aside, it’s truly sad that so much of the exaggerated caricatures that The Simpsons wrote as a silly joke came to pass. Nobody would bat an eye if that visual would be used by an NFL broadcast with “brought to you by MasterLock”
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OT - I accidently came upon this youtube video:



I have no interest in trying it out (for one, I don't own any MasterLocks to experiment on) but I wonder if this is legit possible? Weird, there's a ton of videos with this kind of subject matter on youtube. Wouldn't surprise me if people in prison just watch these to keep their skills up to date (granted I realize there are alot of staged/fake stuff on youtube).
 
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These weekly Vanity Fair scuttlebutt pieces are always a fun read.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/202...ut-his-covid-19-victimhood-as-campaign-flails


According to a source, Melania Trump warned the president during their trip to India in February to take the virus response seriously. “He totally blew her off,” the source said. Melania later told people that Trump “only hears what he wants to hear and surrounds himself with yes-people and family,” the source added.

But the biggest obstacle standing in the way of a Trump-campaign reset is the candidate. “Trump is doing it to himself by tweeting idiotic conspiracy theories about Joe Scarborough. Women are tired of this shit,” said another former West Wing official. An outside adviser agreed. “Trump can’t pivot to a different strategy,” the adviser told me. “He only knows one strategy—which is attack. It worked in 2016. But now it’s not what people are looking for.” The adviser told me that Trump’s New York friends are planning an intervention to get him to stop tweeting about the Morning Joe cohost.

At this point many Republicans I spoke to said the only hope for Trump is that Biden implodes.
 
the crazies tend to make all the noise, so no surprise that people overrate their numbers. also they got all the attention on social media and comedy shows.

the moderate, or slightly apolitical characters -- not so much
 
It's really easy to get discouraged looking at twitter because it seems there's SO many of them... but there's also a shitload of bots amplifying the crazies. Half of them are @john52589385349 with an eagle armed with an AR-15 in front of an American flag as their profile.
 
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